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arches profile
hi
does anyone know if a comparison has been made of the various arches over the years....I'd like to see a cross section/profile through the shape of the fronts and rears for the standard 69-73 cars, the RS, RSR, ST, the early turbo's and the Carrera 3.2 super sports
any thoughts ?
thanks
Jonathan
does anyone know if a comparison has been made of the various arches over the years....I'd like to see a cross section/profile through the shape of the fronts and rears for the standard 69-73 cars, the RS, RSR, ST, the early turbo's and the Carrera 3.2 super sports
any thoughts ?
thanks
Jonathan
1974 2.7 Carrera
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
we had a discussion over the ST arches in a German forum:
1,652 is the RS - near the size as a SC/Carrera but slightly different formed
1,71 is the ST - but it appears that there are a lot of variations these years
1,796 RSR - near the size as a Turbo but slightly different formed
Thorsten
1,61m is the standard pre 74 width- Serienbreite hinten 1,61 m
- 2.7 RS hinten 1,652 m (von der breite ähnlich dem SC/Carrera G-Modell, lediglich die Radlaufkante ist beim RS etwas breiter und wirkt daher über dem Rad etwas gradliniger)
- ‘ST‘ hinten 1,71 m
- 2.8 RSR hinten 1,796 m (von der breite ähnlich dem G-Modell Turbo 1,775 m unterscheiden sich jedoch etwas in Wölbung und in der Radlaufkannte)
1,652 is the RS - near the size as a SC/Carrera but slightly different formed
1,71 is the ST - but it appears that there are a lot of variations these years
1,796 RSR - near the size as a Turbo but slightly different formed
Thorsten
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I was impressed when Mike (210bhp) was commenting on the SC arches on an RS at CLM (IIRC). I can't tell the difference. This thread needs some pics!
James
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Fascinated with 911 seats and induction systems!
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ok, as you asked.......
and forgive me if I get the odd one wrong....
pre 69 cars
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/overhead.jpg)
ST
various, so here's just two
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/IMG_1342-800.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/123blue.jpg)
69-73 cars
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/73s2.jpg)
RSR
(don't know if all of these are true or true copies as turbo arches sometimes used for replicas, aplogies to the owners if they are all real...
)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/1970rsr_bw.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/2-8-RSR-1.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/rsr.jpg)
72/73 RS cars
rear arch flat face tapers from c.25mm at top to c.10mm at ends
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_5535.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSCF0025.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/finie12.jpg)
74/75 2.7 Carrera and 3.0 Carrera
arch bulge same as RS but flat face does not vary as much with c.20mm at top and c.15mm at ends (later SC and 3.2 cars were slightly different again I beleive, with constant width of flat face)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/911painted003.jpg)
3.0 RSR
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/lrg-2387-3_0_rsr_1507.jpg)
3.2 supersport/later turbos
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/1247980-2.jpg)
so if there's anyway of finding out the true profiles and drawings, I'd be interested to generate a CAD comparison section and also modelling them in 3D for a project
regards
jonathan
and forgive me if I get the odd one wrong....
![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
pre 69 cars
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/overhead.jpg)
ST
various, so here's just two
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/IMG_1342-800.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/123blue.jpg)
69-73 cars
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/73s2.jpg)
RSR
(don't know if all of these are true or true copies as turbo arches sometimes used for replicas, aplogies to the owners if they are all real...
![Embarassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/1970rsr_bw.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/2-8-RSR-1.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/rsr.jpg)
72/73 RS cars
rear arch flat face tapers from c.25mm at top to c.10mm at ends
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_5535.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSCF0025.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/finie12.jpg)
74/75 2.7 Carrera and 3.0 Carrera
arch bulge same as RS but flat face does not vary as much with c.20mm at top and c.15mm at ends (later SC and 3.2 cars were slightly different again I beleive, with constant width of flat face)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/911painted003.jpg)
3.0 RSR
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/lrg-2387-3_0_rsr_1507.jpg)
3.2 supersport/later turbos
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/1247980-2.jpg)
so if there's anyway of finding out the true profiles and drawings, I'd be interested to generate a CAD comparison section and also modelling them in 3D for a project
regards
jonathan
1974 2.7 Carrera
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
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73 RS (Sold)
67 S
Mint T (Sold)
996 Turbo (Sold)
73 2.4E (home after 25 years) and Sold again
73T targa (signal yellow project)
1953 Vauxhall Velox
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73 RS (Sold)
67 S
Mint T (Sold)
996 Turbo (Sold)
73 2.4E (home after 25 years) and Sold again
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73T targa (signal yellow project)
1953 Vauxhall Velox
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Just a few comments on the pictures posted by Jonathan :
The first car shown was my 911R-inspired car which was built from a '72 model.
The second (Pastel Blue) 'ST' is in fact a '68 T/R which had (RS?) rear flares added in (I think) the early/mid '70's
The first 2.8 RSR (B&W photo) has Turbo rear flares
& something doesn't look quite right with the flares on the silver/green 3.0 RSR
The first car shown was my 911R-inspired car which was built from a '72 model.
The second (Pastel Blue) 'ST' is in fact a '68 T/R which had (RS?) rear flares added in (I think) the early/mid '70's
The first 2.8 RSR (B&W photo) has Turbo rear flares
& something doesn't look quite right with the flares on the silver/green 3.0 RSR
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just a few more....
RS arches fitted to a replica that was up at Bob's yesterday
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1633.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1640.jpg)
and as I was over at the Porsche museum 2 weeks ago, ijust hapened to take a few of this fine turbo....
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1466.jpg)
and could not get enough of the RSR...........
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1413.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1393.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1416.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1503.jpg)
just gorgeous
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
RS arches fitted to a replica that was up at Bob's yesterday
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1633.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1640.jpg)
and as I was over at the Porsche museum 2 weeks ago, ijust hapened to take a few of this fine turbo....
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1466.jpg)
and could not get enough of the RSR...........
![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1413.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1393.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1416.jpg)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1503.jpg)
just gorgeous
1974 2.7 Carrera
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
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What about the arches on this then. Sorry could,nt resist it.
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![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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70T barn find...... to ST.
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hi stretch
yup saw that too, almost OK in an ugly kind of way, I went over to the Porsche place hoping they might have one of the new classic sports on view, but no luck, liked the orange/black and black/orange pair of GT3's though
jp
yup saw that too, almost OK in an ugly kind of way, I went over to the Porsche place hoping they might have one of the new classic sports on view, but no luck, liked the orange/black and black/orange pair of GT3's though
jp
1974 2.7 Carrera
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
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strech
good choice, that was a work of art
mind you so was this monster in the Mercedes museum, can't recal the name but designed by Porsche just before the war, recall it was meant to run up to somwthing like 300mph.....looked like it might take off and fly
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1622.jpg)
regards
Jp
good choice, that was a work of art
mind you so was this monster in the Mercedes museum, can't recal the name but designed by Porsche just before the war, recall it was meant to run up to somwthing like 300mph.....looked like it might take off and fly
![Shocked :shock:](./images/smilies/icon_eek.gif)
![Image](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/jtparr/completed%20car/DSC_1622.jpg)
regards
Jp
1974 2.7 Carrera
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)