E Type 888330

The place to post images of your other cars.

Moderator: Bootsy

Post Reply
jtparr
DDK 1st, 2nd and 3rd for me!
Posts: 2366
Joined: Mon May 24, 2004 10:54 pm
Location: london/surrey

Re: E Type 888330

Post by jtparr »

911MRP wrote:Hi Jonathan

Hope all is well? Great work/thread. My wife's favourite classic.

You mention a bumper / notch. I don't know if it is at
all relevant to your comment but reminded me of when I went on a tour of Jag factory and old boy leading the group was a long term employee. During tour he stopped, pointed to a wall and said that the fit of a rear bumper /body on the e-type was never correct so the workers used to gently push car and loose fitted bumper into that wall which he claimed always sorted the poor alignment / fit issue. Tacit knowledge or just pulling our leg. Part of his well honed patter but with the reputation of British car workers of that era who knows? Think he was trying to illustrate how much better quality control had become.

Rather like the German guy seen laying into the bare Targa shell with very long metal pole as lever on screen alignment -- on one for the road.

Barry has ability to move metal around much more skillfully than that but thought I'd share this anecdote ;)
Cheers

Steve
Hi Steve
That story is highly likely to be true....Andy (lightweight) mentioned it a few years back....I am sending my rear bumpers off to the platers on Monday, so hopefully there will be shiny lovely pictures in the near future... :cheers:
Last edited by jtparr on Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
1974 2.7 Carrera
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
User avatar
Darren65
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 8161
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:55 pm
Location: North Wiltshire
Contact:

Re: E Type 888330

Post by Darren65 »

My favourite build thread and not even a 911!..... sub zero cool 8)

Thanks for sharing :)
jtparr
DDK 1st, 2nd and 3rd for me!
Posts: 2366
Joined: Mon May 24, 2004 10:54 pm
Location: london/surrey

Re: E Type 888330

Post by jtparr »

As we all know

Life is not a linear process ...there are always other things to be distracted by...like refurbishing...or in my case restoring the interior of much of my house..that was a major part of last year

So time spent on the E Type for the second half of last year was limited, but fun in so much as the effort spent on the details

Soon after Barry and I installed the engine I began the rewarding process of building up the engine bay, I had waited this long and postponed installing any of the smaller items until the engine lump was installed...so now was pay back time

In no particular order, a bit like taking presents from under the Christmas tree I select various bubble wrapped items from the study and carefully installed ....bolts and screws to be aligned....as always.....

Image

Image

Image

the Trico vacuum assist tank was a mini project itself as I had to create the stencil myself and do a period correct "average" spray job so it wouldn't look too precise... :roll:


Image

Image

and the steering rack was a combination of later parts from a right hand drive unit, partly built into the casings of my original, so as much of the old style remained


Image

and the cooling fan motor was a full restoration retaining all the original fixtures....perfectly aligned as standard


Image

Image

Image

and the refurbished manifolds (barbecue spray...the best form of high temperature protection...), plus new brass nuts....


Image

And whilst installing the carburettors I remembered I need to polish up the inner airways....I had already spent hours filing, sanding and then vapour blasting...(.and then clear lacquer coating) the outer surfaces of the aluminium castings to remove any evidence of joints.....so I continued that internally.....small casting marks were visible and it seemed appropriate to do something about them.....and also to clean ....de-rust....and paint the various studs

Image


and continuing the gentle theme of upgrades....you will have noticed a simple square opening in the nearside end of the bulkhead....this is the air intake part that feeds from the heater unit and supplies the cabin....to ease air flow it is possible to buy a fabricated deflector.....i decided to make my own (from old aluminium from a damaged part of the interior of the car....so keeping old metal once again...) to ensure it was a perfect fit....not the usual compromise of one size fits all that applies to the mass market...

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

It was coated with epoxy and gunmetal top coat prior to installing the heater unit itself..

Image



I decided a long time ago to have Barry alter the rake of both seats, to allow a more relaxed and comfortable driving position, that and the fact that the steel bucket frames were corroded meant a full blast clean and repaint was required

I wanted to replicate the actual BS paint finish, but drew a blank with any codes from research....so comparing the original colour to the BS-381 colour charts I bought 4 sample pots, none of which were correct...so I tried my own methods of mixing them

Image

Subtle varying parts of each in combination provided a decent solution...although the final result based on the paler beige epoxy base coat and undercoat was not totally correct....


Image

Image

Image

However....it was a bit of fun, and provided a reasonable egg shell colour...vitally important considering not a single surface will be visible once installed..!

As an aside, I have read recently that the dove grey colour used for a small selection of other engine bay components is the correct seat base colour...however I have to say having used that colour on my car already....mine was certainly not dove grey...it was much more grey and blue



October and cooler wetter weather arrived all too soon.....but so did the opportunity to install the rear suspension assembly

With new mounts employed all round, the unit was a tight fit, and took us hours to ease into place...probably like most things to do it a second time would be shorter, but the whole process is a constant one of learning along the way


With the anti roll bar added and the prop shaft bolted into place it really is a lovely combination of materials, finishes and colours....

Image

Image

you can also see a hint of the period correct blue colour for the dampers....more on that later....and the dimpled heat reflective material I used on the underside....gorgeous

for the eagle eyed reader you will also see that some of the fixings have not markings....this is because I have used stainless in some exposed areas, but as I don't want any modern looking markings, where I use stainless I also grind off the raised detail so they are plain....


Apart from learning, the other aspect of this restoration process is research....there rarely seems to be something that doesn’t require searching of old photos...or consulting the Spare Parts Catalogue....or even looking at the manual

Quite some years ago I happened on a torsion bar setting tool for the front suspension, which as these are rarely up for sale I promptly bought

Image

However upon checking it’s dimensions (45.42cm) found them not to match those listed in my original copy of the Works Manual....what to do

Simple.....

Cut and re-weld the setting tool to the dimensions listed in the manual....

Simples....

Er....no

Installing the torsion bars was in itself a challenging episode...just as with a 911 they have splines at each end...with different teeth spacing to permit fine adjustment...unlike a 911 however, the alignment of the female socket to locate the front splines is influenced by the actual alignment of the lower wishbone...and no matter how I tried ....with the wishbone assembly installed (which permits no fine adjustment) I could not get the torsion bar to slide in easily ....so I had no choice but to undo earlier work, undo one of the wishbone mounting points and get back under the car

Lying on my back with right hand aligning the rear splines....left hand aligning the front splines and using my knee to raise and lower the wishbone to achieve the perfect angle needed I ultimately achieved success...

4 hours actually for the offside........plus just 1 hour for the nearside

Image

Image

Image


Or so I thought.....

Having installed the torsion bars...I double checked everything and whilst the setting tool had accurately created the 45.88cm from upper damper bolt to lower wishbone bolt....the lower wishbone was pointing down at quite some angle....and when I placed the jack under the wishbone to simulate a car sitting on its wheels I lifted the whole front of the car seemingly way before the wishbone came close to horizontal

Plus the dampers were really stretched to maximum extension at this point ....

Something felt wrong.....that kind of feeling when your not convinced of being right...but don’t have experience to know either way....not a great feeling

Image

Image

The suspension is an assembly made up of many small parts....and if I wasn’t correct at the stage I would be clearly continuing at risk of complete abortive progress later on....and a big strip down...potentially damaging paintwork and finishes to all the components and fixings


Research.....and asking questions...easily achieved these days thanks to the wonderful “interweb”

If I has looked more closely I would have realised that my Jaguar Workshop manual and later published books conflicted in their advice...I didn’t as I took the manual as gospel.....it’s just that time moved on and my manual (undated) was a very early version....and in December 1961 the specification for torsion bar setting changed such that the torsion bar tool was made with a smaller dimension....guess what......45.24mm

Image

Image

Image

Image


Now that 6.64mm....or 1/4” may not seem like much but it actually made an appreciable difference


Which was good as I had to pull apart all I hade done....and start all over again

Grumpy....frustrated.....actually no...all part of learning...don’t let it get you down....this is a leisure interest not a job, so out with the welder ( which was also playing up....!) cut and re-weld...back exactly where it was originally.....

Image

Image

Image

Image


this time I managed to pull apart and rebuild both sides in 3 hours.....not bad....and it was done whilst laughing at the whole affair...and ironically it all assembled more easily...perhaps it meant I was putting the bars in exactly where they had been for the previous 50 years ...who knows

More importantly it meant I could install these lovely items.....

Image

Image

Image

NOS ...original Girling dampers that I had found a few years ago....minimal work to remove old paint (incorrect colour as they were from the late 1960’s) and etch prime and top coat with BS 633 “RAF Blue”...complete with new period correct Girling stickers


So a Mosquito squadron colour on this most essentially English car with an engine that looks like it should be from a Spitfire....kinda cool I thought....


next....these lovely bad boys.....specially requested to avoid having black highlights tom the lettering to maintain the discrete look of the finished car

Image

Image

Image

they are beautifully crafted....and bring me fully up to date with this shot, which i have just taken tonight..

Image

thanks for looking....apologies for the large delay in sharing....
1974 2.7 Carrera
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
User avatar
yoda
I need to get out more!
Posts: 3291
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:01 am
Location: London

Re: E Type 888330

Post by yoda »

Absolutely love it! What a project and great work.
The force is strong in this one ......
johnM
I need to get out more!
Posts: 3397
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:27 pm
Location: Lake District

Re: E Type 888330

Post by johnM »

I’m all for driving cars but this is art. Amazing attention to detail as always JP. Can’t wait to see this car.
John
1970 2.2E Coupe.
2004 996 GT3 mkII
2015 Skoda Octavia VRS TSI DSG.
2021 Toyota GR Yaris Circuit Pack
Bigfoot
DDK slapper chatter
Posts: 398
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:40 pm

Re: E Type 888330

Post by Bigfoot »

looks absolutely mega JP, be such a shame to get it dirty!! Love how you have continued to align those nuts and bolts throughout the build.... !!! Be nice to see a photo stood back a little
Adam

1973 911 2.4E
1974 911 2.7 Ratrod
911hillclimber
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 20695
Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:26 pm
Location: West Midlands

Re: E Type 888330

Post by 911hillclimber »

Great to see it back.
Best ever!
73T 911 Coupe, road/hillclimber 3.2L
Lola t 492 / 3.2 hillclimb racer
Boxster 987 Gen II 2.9
User avatar
hot66
Moderator
Posts: 19233
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:17 pm
Location: North Yorkshire

Re: E Type 888330

Post by hot66 »

Jonathon the car is looking pure porn ... love these details
James

1973 911 2.4S
1993 964 C2
2010 987 Spyder

1963 Honda C100 Supercub

Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast ;)
jtparr
DDK 1st, 2nd and 3rd for me!
Posts: 2366
Joined: Mon May 24, 2004 10:54 pm
Location: london/surrey

Re: E Type 888330

Post by jtparr »

Bigfoot wrote:looks absolutely mega JP, be such a shame to get it dirty!! Love how you have continued to align those nuts and bolts throughout the build.... !!! Be nice to see a photo stood back a little
If I step back you’ll see the whole garage....I’ll have to clean it first... 8)
1974 2.7 Carrera
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
User avatar
Bootsy
Site admin and the Boss
Posts: 25685
Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:09 pm
Location: Norwich
Contact:

Re: E Type 888330

Post by Bootsy »

Top top work
1972 911T | 1994 993 Carrera | 1999 986 Boxster |

Vintage Heuer, Omega, Zenith and other vintage watches - http://www.heuerheritage.co.uk
sladey
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 9379
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:08 pm
Location: Nottingham, UK

Re: E Type 888330

Post by sladey »

Great stuff Jonathan. Thanks for sharing
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
markm
Put a fork in me, I'm done!
Posts: 1997
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:55 am

Re: E Type 888330

Post by markm »

Tis a glorious project, the attention to detail is incredible, it will be a absolutely stunning car when finish Mr Parr.
72 2.4S
92 964RS
96 993RS
Series 1 DDK membership card
Gary71
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 10732
Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:27 pm
Location: Cheshire
Contact:

Re: E Type 888330

Post by Gary71 »

It’s a thing of beauty Fabulous attention to detail as ever
Mike
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 5129
Joined: Wed May 25, 2005 12:39 pm
Location: Hampshire

Re: E Type 888330

Post by Mike »

Well done Jonathan, fantastic work!
cheers, Mike.

previously..
1994 968 Club Sport Riviera Blue
1994 993 C2 Carrera Riviera Blue
1972 911S to Martini RSR Prototype Spec
1973 911E to RS Lightweight Specification
1981 924 Carrera GT ex Mexborough car
3.2 Carrera Sport x2
User avatar
Nige
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 6686
Joined: Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:11 pm
Location: Denby, Derbyshire

Re: E Type 888330

Post by Nige »

How do you manage to align all the bolt points and maintain the correct torque setting for all?
Post Reply