the madness has returned?
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redrobin911
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the madness has returned?
I've just seen that this 911 GT2 made £1,848,000 at auction - sturggling to work out how it's worth anything like this - anybody got a answer other than "its market value"?
http://rmsothebys.com/lf16/london/lots/ ... t2/1082305
http://rmsothebys.com/lf16/london/lots/ ... t2/1082305
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Re: the madness has returned?
Don't tell Vic
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sorry Bootsy, can't pay subs ,just used the money for years supply of kleenex`!
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'71 2.2 s
currently working through total rebuild '71 2.2 s
caring for '73 2.4 s
recent past;
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john ruston
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Re: the madness has returned?
Think madness has moved dates
The crazy prices were 80's 90's stuff
The 70's cars were sold at about the expected rate. 460 k for RST
What do these people do with these newer cars?Baffles me.
The awful Pre A Speedster for restoration made 235 K .
It will be total rebuild with lots of new parts required.
Didn't get it.At least the restoration merchants will charge 150 k plus to sort it.
No wonder April had a smile on his face!
The crazy prices were 80's 90's stuff
The 70's cars were sold at about the expected rate. 460 k for RST
What do these people do with these newer cars?Baffles me.
The awful Pre A Speedster for restoration made 235 K .
It will be total rebuild with lots of new parts required.
Didn't get it.At least the restoration merchants will charge 150 k plus to sort it.
No wonder April had a smile on his face!
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964RS
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Looks like one billionaire American bought most of them up. Mint one owner, original paint, stupid low mileage cars for the portfolio.
Money is not a factor in purchasing them. It was specific cars that were 'wanted'. Petty cash....
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Re: the madness has returned?
At Goodwood Revival Saturday: Porsche 550RS Spyder sold for nearly £4.6 million
Sold for £4,593,500 inc. premium which is said to be a world record for the model. Further info in links below for those interested in details:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/classic ... r--millio/
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23595/l ... sults&m8=8
http://www.bonhams.com/press_release/22384/
Being unmolested, well preserved example seemed to be factors in this case. Doubt anyone will do a nut and bolt bare metal restoration and destroy the patina/originality on this example, hopefully....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19349921
Sold for £4,593,500 inc. premium which is said to be a world record for the model. Further info in links below for those interested in details:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/classic ... r--millio/
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23595/l ... sults&m8=8
http://www.bonhams.com/press_release/22384/
Being unmolested, well preserved example seemed to be factors in this case. Doubt anyone will do a nut and bolt bare metal restoration and destroy the patina/originality on this example, hopefully....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19349921
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Re: the madness has returned?
To some, that's not a massive amount .. And where are you going to get another unrestored 550 ? Arguably better value than the 993 gt2 ?
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Some datapoints courtesy of HAGI regarding marketplace for people who like numbers and so forth (presumably including the Monterey and other summer events)
"The HAGI P Index is measuring the rare Porsche automobile market: Percent change +1.13 this month; ytd - 1.51 percent ytd
HAGI P inception values £100 on 31.12.2008, index for Aug 2016 is 328.04.
Exceptional collector's cars continue to achieve fair market prices across all marques and models. Furthermore road cars produced in higher volumes have been subject to very selective buying only while we observed significant price penalties for incomplete or compromised examples."
Source http://www.historicautogroup.com
"The HAGI P Index is measuring the rare Porsche automobile market: Percent change +1.13 this month; ytd - 1.51 percent ytd
HAGI P inception values £100 on 31.12.2008, index for Aug 2016 is 328.04.
Exceptional collector's cars continue to achieve fair market prices across all marques and models. Furthermore road cars produced in higher volumes have been subject to very selective buying only while we observed significant price penalties for incomplete or compromised examples."
Source http://www.historicautogroup.com
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john ruston
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Re: the madness has returned?
What does that last post mean?
As soon as people mention investment and yield run the other way.
Cars should be bought as toys and people who consider them investment are crazy.
As soon as people mention investment and yield run the other way.
Cars should be bought as toys and people who consider them investment are crazy.
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Re: the madness has returned?
Well said John !
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Re: the madness has returned?
+1john ruston wrote:What does that last post mean?
As soon as people mention investment and yield run the other way.
Cars should be bought as toys and people who consider them investment are crazy.
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
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What Shandy said
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Re: the madness has returned?
I remember not too long ago circa 2012 being offered a 993 GT2 for £300k, how values have risen. Incredible
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But not all GT2's are worth 1.8m Mark. Just this one was....most would be half that at BEST. So £300k-700k is probably about right and in line with everything else similarmarkm wrote:I remember not too long ago circa 2012 being offered a 993 GT2 for £300k, how values have risen. Incredible
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