Only if i had the time and skill to do most of the work myself.mad wrote:i would say if you got that for 3-4 k, you would be happy and got a good deal ?
This is what 7 grand buys you. Or possibly less..
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Yes true I broke up a RHD 912 FGO 8C the sencond 912 AFN sold.. but it was rotten and I mean it could be saved but it would take about 400hrs and £4000 on metal work to get it up to scratch. that car to restore would have cost £20-22K to do.. what's it worth back then £8000 now £12-14. and there was a 5 year gap.
Yes values are high but can you really see this staying like this.. I am not talking into a market crash but I can see more realistic prices in say 5 years time..
I am going though this dilema now with a RHD 911 I have found, it is at the stage that it needs alot that it is worth more as parts.. but who wants to break up a RHD 11?
Yes values are high but can you really see this staying like this.. I am not talking into a market crash but I can see more realistic prices in say 5 years time..
I am going though this dilema now with a RHD 911 I have found, it is at the stage that it needs alot that it is worth more as parts.. but who wants to break up a RHD 11?
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Agreed, my car wouldn't still be on the road if I had to pay a garage to fix it or put a value on my time.58A - 71E wrote:c)someone might want to save a car, take great pleasure in doing the work themselves and not do it purely on economical grounds - if economics were the only case for restoring a car I suspect there would be far fewer pre 74 cars in general on the road
Economics rarely come into it for anything other than lower than a 72/3 'S or an RS.
Even for an 'S' there is a point where it's just not worth it in purely financial terms
If you could get it for a couple of grand and had the metal working skills then it maybe worth a punt. That caveat on that though is that there is at least some metal from which you can start rebuilding!
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I also admit to having broken a RHD Porsche - & it was a........................
356 !!

356 !!
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ekk expensive..
this car is just not for the average weekend welder.. if they took it on one it will be a project for 10 years and probably never get done. Two it will not be a straight shell with out mounting on a jig.
AND we are missing the point here it's B !!
if we are going to look at things sensible and encomincs
is this worth £9500

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my sub 10 k est was based on the buyer doing EVERYTHING themeslves
there are a lot of enthusiast out there who will happily restore a beyond repair vehicle for no other reason than seeing it back in everyday use,
i`m not talking 3 k paint jobs and 1500 pound gearbox renovations
solid metalwork , good honest mechanics and a home done DIY paint job for protection rather than looks
this isnt a VW ethos, its simply a car enthusiasts one, renovation over destruction
there are a lot of enthusiast out there who will happily restore a beyond repair vehicle for no other reason than seeing it back in everyday use,
i`m not talking 3 k paint jobs and 1500 pound gearbox renovations
solid metalwork , good honest mechanics and a home done DIY paint job for protection rather than looks
this isnt a VW ethos, its simply a car enthusiasts one, renovation over destruction

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Restoration
I'm right there with "Mad" home restoration is NOTHING about economics. I've restored or buillt at home as a skilled amateur at least 6 different cars from a JPS europa , TR6's , MGB's, HS and HSR Chevettes, Cal Beetles, Baja's, Integrales, RS 3100to name a few, oh and also several camper van conversions
It is never about profit or potential money for me. It the journey and the learning. I could, if I could afford it ,have ordered a Smart Racing steering UJ kit but I just came out of my workshop having made my own £12:00 for the UJ and two days turning and milling.
Profit ZERO pleasure PRICELESS.
also I gain ongoing "income". I love showing so called restoration folk who just cheque book it what I do again totatly priceless and it really pi**es off the PCGB stylee folk who worry what colour widget was fitted in the 3rd day of production in 1969 and if its correctly aligned.
Britain has a long heritage of racing "garistas" and hobbyists and more strength for that; my view is relax and enjoy the process.

It is never about profit or potential money for me. It the journey and the learning. I could, if I could afford it ,have ordered a Smart Racing steering UJ kit but I just came out of my workshop having made my own £12:00 for the UJ and two days turning and milling.
Profit ZERO pleasure PRICELESS.
also I gain ongoing "income". I love showing so called restoration folk who just cheque book it what I do again totatly priceless and it really pi**es off the PCGB stylee folk who worry what colour widget was fitted in the 3rd day of production in 1969 and if its correctly aligned.
Britain has a long heritage of racing "garistas" and hobbyists and more strength for that; my view is relax and enjoy the process.
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i have one already, and one that many people had turned there noses at and said chop it up...... and am a happier man for it, i`m not trying to prove a point or win an argument912uk wrote:Ok you buy it and we will see it in 10 years and ask how far you got.
i`m just offering my experiance to anyone out there potentially thinking of such a purchase
many will say dont do it for many reasons......i say, if you feel the car and the price is right FOR YOU....GO FOR IT
too many people making judgemnent on a complete car that tyhey havent even taken the time to view, i wouldnt pay the buy it now, but like i say, personally, i think if someone payed 3-4 grand for that, they may get a pleasant surprise (they may get a rust box they need to rebuild) either way, its a pretty cheap entry into the 356 ownership world and the satisfaction of saving it cant bought
on the other hand, if someone offers 2k for it and breaks it, i`ll take the engine please

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Perhaps is the buiness man in me, but I just can only do so much for love with a car. If it's not worth saving you have to be honest if it's that bad it needs to be done right other wise alot of time and effort is just wasted.
At the end of the day that car is just a car and there will be more of them and prob in better condition..for the same money..
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I think that most of you guys here are lucky, you have cars that are worth the rebuild costs. Just ask at the Imp club about the economics of a £3k respray !!
I the past I have given away Lancia Fulvia projects just because they were not worth the cost of a respray, let alone the rest of the work that is required.
Far better to look at a car like this as a hobby. A hobby costs you money, be it Golf, Squash, stamp collecting or whatever. If at the end of rebuilding your "hobby" tot up what your "hobby" has cost you over the years. At least with a Porsche, you have a good chance of levelling the balance sheet by selling it on and buying your next "hobby"
Just look at the thousands the kids spend on adding some Bling to their Saxo !!
That said, what about taking this one and just using is as the "as original" donor for a Chesil or similar ....
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I the past I have given away Lancia Fulvia projects just because they were not worth the cost of a respray, let alone the rest of the work that is required.
Far better to look at a car like this as a hobby. A hobby costs you money, be it Golf, Squash, stamp collecting or whatever. If at the end of rebuilding your "hobby" tot up what your "hobby" has cost you over the years. At least with a Porsche, you have a good chance of levelling the balance sheet by selling it on and buying your next "hobby"
Just look at the thousands the kids spend on adding some Bling to their Saxo !!
That said, what about taking this one and just using is as the "as original" donor for a Chesil or similar ....
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