1972 Oel Klappe question
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1972 Oel Klappe question
My car started life as a U.K. delivered RHD 1972 911 E coupe. It is an Oel Klappe and even though it’s now a steel arched 74 RS rep it still has the flap in the rear wing.
I was wondering how rare the base model car actually is? I’m not planning on restoring it back to orginal spec but was interested out of curiosity. Tbh if I do anything with it longer term it will be turning it into a 73 2.8 RSR rep, seems a shame to have a long hood masquerading as something else!
I was wondering how rare the base model car actually is? I’m not planning on restoring it back to orginal spec but was interested out of curiosity. Tbh if I do anything with it longer term it will be turning it into a 73 2.8 RSR rep, seems a shame to have a long hood masquerading as something else!
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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
Any surviving Rhd early car is relatively rare as it managed to survive our salty roads. It also does appear a large amount of 72/73 rhd E’s became race cars too
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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
Yes this car has been a race car since the late 70’s so hasn’t seen salty roads!
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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
The 2.4E fitted the class structure for the 1970's PCGB race series very nicely, and was a very competitive car for overall series points.hot66 wrote:Any surviving Rhd early car is relatively rare as it managed to survive our salty roads. It also does appear a large amount of 72/73 rhd E’s became race cars too
Several cars at that time moved engine power from T to E & S and many were upgraded to 2.7 RS spec, as even back then, the originals became to valuable to continue to race, and the owners built replicas.
My 1972 S was UP-dated in Germany in 1977 to impact bumpers - I have all of the invoices and TUV papers for the job. We have competed with it since 1985, and it was a competition car when we bought it. When you consider that our previous 1969 2 litre 911S had already had rust repairs when we bought that at under 10 years old, and needed a lot of welding through our ownership, then the cars which were converted as race cars have probably had a much longer life than the average ones from that era.

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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
Is your whale tail all fibreglass with no rubber nor metal?jwhillracer wrote:
My 1972 S was UP-dated in Germany in 1977 to impact bumpers - I have all of the invoices and TUV papers for the job. We have competed with it since 1985, and it was a competition car
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I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
No, it’s fibreglass with the rubber lip
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1970 914/6 2.4E/Webers
1970 VW Beetle project
1972 911 Hillclimber part of the family for 40 years!
2006 Hymer Merc Starline 630
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2000 Golf V5 Estate GT
1963 Porsche 109 Junior
1970 914/6 2.4E/Webers
1970 VW Beetle project
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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
There were 248 rhd 2.4E coupes built. I don’t have the split between 72 and 73 MY’s but if it’s roughly equal then your car is one of about 124.
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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
Good evening
Does anyone know how many RHD 1972 911s still exist today in the uk
Any reply much appreciated
Kind regards
John
Does anyone know how many RHD 1972 911s still exist today in the uk
Any reply much appreciated
Kind regards
John
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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
Guesstimating again but back then probably 75% of RHD came to UK, and 70% of all Porsches ever made are still on the road so that gives you about 120 RHD 2.4E's left in the UK.
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
Few years back (5/8) the Oil flappy was offered at a fair premium over other models of the same year.Now not so much.A top restored model likely to be 120/150k.Design 911 had a freshly restored one,which I became very familar with, over 2 or so years when I collected parts.It was offererd at 120k iirc.Obviously, if your gonna turn it into a RS rep/hotrod etc,then the numbers dont matter,if they do.Then dont do it.Guys,please chim in If im way out of the value/numbers......ditchvisitor wrote:My car started life as a U.K. delivered RHD 1972 911 E coupe. It is an Oel Klappe and even though it’s now a steel arched 74 RS rep it still has the flap in the rear wing.
I was wondering how rare the base model car actually is? I’m not planning on restoring it back to orginal spec but was interested out of curiosity. Tbh if I do anything with it longer term it will be turning it into a 73 2.8 RSR rep, seems a shame to have a long hood masquerading as something else!
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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
This isn't the yellow one that recently sold, is it?ditchvisitor wrote:My car started life as a U.K. delivered RHD 1972 911 E coupe. It is an Oel Klappe and even though it’s now a steel arched 74 RS rep it still has the flap in the rear wing.
I was wondering how rare the base model car actually is? I’m not planning on restoring it back to orginal spec but was interested out of curiosity. Tbh if I do anything with it longer term it will be turning it into a 73 2.8 RSR rep, seems a shame to have a long hood masquerading as something else!
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1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
Gentlemen
Can anyone kindly advise me as to the approximate remaining number of original RHD 1972 Porsche 911s that AFN imported that survives today.
Thank you in advance
Can anyone kindly advise me as to the approximate remaining number of original RHD 1972 Porsche 911s that AFN imported that survives today.
Thank you in advance
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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
You're now relaxing the "E" criteria, about one in six was an E I believe from looking at the serial numbers so the new "mathematician's guestimate" would increase from 120 to 720.
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
Hi Rob
I might well be under a misapprehension here however I was under the impression that in 1972 AFN only imported less than 60 variants of the RHD 911-S excluding the E and T model
In addition I seem to recall being advised that surviving S models from 1972 were between 15-16 cars that were known of
Always happy to be corrected on this subject more curiosity than anything else
Regards John
I might well be under a misapprehension here however I was under the impression that in 1972 AFN only imported less than 60 variants of the RHD 911-S excluding the E and T model
In addition I seem to recall being advised that surviving S models from 1972 were between 15-16 cars that were known of
Always happy to be corrected on this subject more curiosity than anything else
Regards John
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Re: 1972 Oel Klappe question
There were 144 2.4S rhd coupes delivered in the UK in 72/73. Again, I don’t have the breakdown between the two years. In addition there were 46 2.4S rhd Targa’s delivered in the UK in 1973 (the only year for rhd pre-impact bumper Targa’s).
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67 S
Mint T (Sold)
996 Turbo (Sold)
73 2.4E (home after 25 years) and Sold again
73T targa (signal yellow project)
1953 Vauxhall Velox
914/6
1963 356B
https://www.mybespokeroom.com/
73 RS (Sold)
67 S
Mint T (Sold)
996 Turbo (Sold)
73 2.4E (home after 25 years) and Sold again
73T targa (signal yellow project)
1953 Vauxhall Velox
914/6
1963 356B
https://www.mybespokeroom.com/

