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PS autoart value
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:05 pm
by gridgway
A friend of a friend is enamoured of this
Autoart Classic Touring
It looks nice so I understand that he likes it. But I just can't get my head around the price £190k. So on one hand it's niceish and hopefully really nicely restored and sorted. But on the other hand it's just a backdated G50 3.2
Would anyone consider buying such a car and what would you think it should be worth?
Cheers
Graham
PS autoart value - wrong place in the forum!
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:47 pm
by Gary71
Don’t get it for that money.
£85k maybe? But £190k? Nope.
You can get a nice 2.4S for the same.
I know which I’d have.
Re: PS autoart value - wrong place in the forum!
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:38 pm
by gridgway
That's what I thought, but he won't be told!!
Re: PS autoart value - wrong place in the forum!
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:53 pm
by Sam
Three white polo shirts. One says John Lewis for £40, one Ralph Lauren for £80, one Moncler for £200.
I’ve driven the PS car and it’s very different to an early car. Quieter, comfier, brisker, has air con. The guy who had it built had lots of cars and changed his Eagle E Type for it as he wanted something his wife would be happy to travel in. It fulfils that brief very nicely indeed.
It wouldn’t be for me, but neither would a Singer for 3 times more and both PS and Singer manage to find homes for their cars new and used.
I’d get the John Lewis one then personalise the look by jazzing it up with some thrift-shop accessories.
Re: PS autoart value - wrong place in the forum!
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:33 pm
by sng45
Do they do a Ralph Lewis shirt for sixty quid ?
Re: PS autoart value - wrong place in the forum!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:05 am
by Sam
sng45 wrote:Do they do a Ralph Lewis shirt for sixty quid ?
Maybe Norse Projects? You appreciate nice things, but you’re not a show off so would never get anything Moncler. And definitely not a chav so the Ralph Lauren one is out.
I was thinking the other day that there’s a gap in the car market at the mo. If you’re rich but not flash what do you get brand new? Something beautifully put together but subtle. I suppose Mercedes tried to find it with the Maybach.
Re: PS autoart value - wrong place in the forum!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:28 am
by mrk
Sam wrote:
I was thinking the other day that there’s a gap in the car market at the mo. If you’re rich but not flash what do you get brand new? Something beautifully put together but subtle. I suppose Mercedes tried to find it with the Maybach.
If you want to spend a ‘huge’ amount of money, then you probably can’t do ‘not flash’ anymore?
If you’re happy spending more modestly, then over the years, ALPINA ticks a lot of those boxes, for some?
(I’m a bit biased, please note )
I really did like the PS “Le Mans Classic” edition when I saw it in the flesh, at the Silverstone Classic festival, last year. The prices are just what some people can / are happy to pay... but I did really, really have massive ‘want’ at the time!
Re: PS autoart value
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:30 am
by 911hillclimber
^^ Me too, lovely understated car, not Singer-in-you-Face etc and simply in good taste imho.
Too much at my stage of life, but if with real money and 40+ for sure.
Re: PS autoart value
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:14 am
by Sam
If you want to spend a ‘huge’ amount of money, then you probably can’t do ‘not flash’ anymore?
If you’re happy spending more modestly, then over the years, ALPINA ticks a lot of those boxes, for some?
Fair point. If you spend £200k on a car you’re going to have a hard job convincing anyone it’s not ostentatious.
A debadged non-AMG big-engine Mercedes or an S8 used to work OK in the Alpina price range but they seem to suddenly all look a bit Uber.
Re: PS autoart value
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:19 am
by yoda
I think it’s very hard to consider the PS car “good value” at that price Graham, more of a “I know I am paying way over” but I can afford it. I wouldn’t buy it at half the price. Much better options and dare I say it, much better workmanship.
Re: PS autoart value
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:17 pm
by gridgway
Yes, very hard to say. It's just such a huge amount of money. I've passed on my view that it's so hard to determine what it's worth. But the friend of a friend is a big boy and if he wants it, it's worth whatever gets agreed if a deal gets done!
Thanks for the help all. Thanks Bootsy for moving my mis-placed thread, wasn't sure you'd have enough time now you are a FB convert
Graham
Re: PS autoart value
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:04 pm
by Sam
Get him to try for some hospitality in the deal - at Le Mans Classic, Goodwood, Spa etc. Paul goes to all those things and coffee in the drivers’ enclosure is much better fun than £5k off the price.
Re: PS autoart value
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:04 pm
by Darren65
Sam wrote:Get him to try for some hospitality in the deal - at Le Mans Classic, Goodwood, Spa etc. Paul goes to all those things and coffee in the drivers’ enclosure is much better fun than £5k off the price.
....lol, that's an expensive coffee!

Re: PS autoart value
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:22 pm
by yoda
I would take the £5k!
Re: PS autoart value
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:59 pm
by Sam
Pfft.
I once had lunch with Steve Rider in the Drivers’ Club at Goodwood.
No amount of money can but you life experiences like that.