Have looked at many threads for which the doctors car seems one of the most detailed but is there a definitive paint spec anywhere of what should be used where??
Definitive paint finish guide??
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Robind
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Definitive paint finish guide??
A few more more weeks on our 66 912 resto and we will be into thinking about paint, seam sealer ect.
Have looked at many threads for which the doctors car seems one of the most detailed but is there a definitive paint spec anywhere of what should be used where??
Have looked at many threads for which the doctors car seems one of the most detailed but is there a definitive paint spec anywhere of what should be used where??
1966 912 Slate Grey sunroof
1975 911 Blue Targa
2001 996 Blue Convertible
1981 Ferrari 308 GTB
1960 Mercedes 190SL
1983 Mercedes 500SL
1975 911 Blue Targa
2001 996 Blue Convertible
1981 Ferrari 308 GTB
1960 Mercedes 190SL
1983 Mercedes 500SL
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210bhp
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
It depends if you are in the originality camp or not. There's a lot of sense protecting your newly refurbished metal with modern techniques and materials for longevity. Quite a few of these were not available when your car was originally built. It's long been a conundrum for today's restorers. Por15, for instance, is a case in point.
Regards
Mike
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Mike
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Mint T (Sold)
996 Turbo (Sold)
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
Personally, and from experience, I don't rate POR15.210bhp wrote:Por15, for instance, is a case in point.
Darren
72T 2.5... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56183
73 2.4E ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44242
77 Carrera 3.0...to 74 3.0RS ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63389
72T 2.5... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56183
73 2.4E ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44242
77 Carrera 3.0...to 74 3.0RS ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63389
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
How come....?...still going strong on mine....Darren65 wrote:Personally, and from experience, I don't rate POR15.210bhp wrote:Por15, for instance, is a case in point.
1974 2.7 Carrera
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
We painted a 2CV chassis a few years back and also used POR15 for the body as a base primer. After only a couple of years edges of the chassis didn't look too great and the body had bubbled in a couple of places. Also not the easiest product to work with if spraying and difficult to key. Probably better used with a brush.jtparr wrote:How come....?...still going strong on mine....Darren65 wrote:Personally, and from experience, I don't rate POR15.210bhp wrote:Por15, for instance, is a case in point.
A good quality epoxy on clean bare metal will always be the way to go imo.
I don't doubt POR15 is a good product and perfect for certain uses, it's just not the 'miracle paint' that its sometimes portrayed to be.
Darren
72T 2.5... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56183
73 2.4E ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44242
77 Carrera 3.0...to 74 3.0RS ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63389
72T 2.5... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56183
73 2.4E ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44242
77 Carrera 3.0...to 74 3.0RS ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63389
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
Looking for the finish "to look original " but happy to use modern techniques for sure, no doubt paint has changed in the last 50 years210bhp wrote:It depends if you are in the originality camp or not. There's a lot of sense protecting your newly refurbished metal with modern techniques and materials for longevity. Quite a few of these were not available when your car was originally built. It's long been a conundrum for today's restorers. Por15, for instance, is a case in point.
Regards
Mike
1966 912 Slate Grey sunroof
1975 911 Blue Targa
2001 996 Blue Convertible
1981 Ferrari 308 GTB
1960 Mercedes 190SL
1983 Mercedes 500SL
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2001 996 Blue Convertible
1981 Ferrari 308 GTB
1960 Mercedes 190SL
1983 Mercedes 500SL
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
Your not kidding, try getting the lid off the bloody tin after you have used it onceDarren65 wrote: Also not the easiest product to work with
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
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Personally, and from experience, I don't rate POR15.[/quote]
How come....?...still going strong on mine....[/quote]
We painted a 2CV chassis a few years back and also used POR15 for the body as a base primer. After only a couple of years edges of the chassis didn't look too great and the body had bubbled in a couple of places. Also not the easiest product to work with if spraying and difficult to key. Probably better used with a brush.
A good quality epoxy on clean bare metal will always be the way to go imo.
I don't doubt POR15 is a good product and perfect for certain uses, it's just not the 'miracle paint' that its sometimes portrayed to be.[/quote]
Interesting what others have experienced...did you use their primer system on top of the base coat, before anything else...I did brush all of mine, 2 coats of the base POR-15 then 2 coats of their POR-primer and then the rubber stone chip then top coat...it is a paint I have to admit is hard work to apply...but gave me piece of mind....am thinking spray and epoxy for the E-Type mind you...!
Personally, and from experience, I don't rate POR15.[/quote]
How come....?...still going strong on mine....[/quote]
We painted a 2CV chassis a few years back and also used POR15 for the body as a base primer. After only a couple of years edges of the chassis didn't look too great and the body had bubbled in a couple of places. Also not the easiest product to work with if spraying and difficult to key. Probably better used with a brush.
A good quality epoxy on clean bare metal will always be the way to go imo.
I don't doubt POR15 is a good product and perfect for certain uses, it's just not the 'miracle paint' that its sometimes portrayed to be.[/quote]
Interesting what others have experienced...did you use their primer system on top of the base coat, before anything else...I did brush all of mine, 2 coats of the base POR-15 then 2 coats of their POR-primer and then the rubber stone chip then top coat...it is a paint I have to admit is hard work to apply...but gave me piece of mind....am thinking spray and epoxy for the E-Type mind you...!
1974 2.7 Carrera
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
(full restoration. now as an RS Touring)
1963 3.8 E Type
( 11 years in the making…………………….)
1952. XK120…the next one ……….……..)
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sladey
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
I've been chuffed with epoxy mastic from Rustbuster.
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
For usability, I'd choose Lechlers epoxy over POR15 any day.
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
Looks like I have a few decisions to make 
1966 912 Slate Grey sunroof
1975 911 Blue Targa
2001 996 Blue Convertible
1981 Ferrari 308 GTB
1960 Mercedes 190SL
1983 Mercedes 500SL
1975 911 Blue Targa
2001 996 Blue Convertible
1981 Ferrari 308 GTB
1960 Mercedes 190SL
1983 Mercedes 500SL
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
I thought por15 is meant to be painted to an already rusty surface for best protection rather than clean metal
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
I find it sticks like crazy to freshly shot blasted surfaces but will just peel from non keyed finishes.
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
What do you use for the rubber stonechip?
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Re: Definitive paint finish guide??
Plus 1
Also different stages, I.e. Primer, rubber chip, top coat?? And which areas on the car have what??
Also different stages, I.e. Primer, rubber chip, top coat?? And which areas on the car have what??
1966 912 Slate Grey sunroof
1975 911 Blue Targa
2001 996 Blue Convertible
1981 Ferrari 308 GTB
1960 Mercedes 190SL
1983 Mercedes 500SL
1975 911 Blue Targa
2001 996 Blue Convertible
1981 Ferrari 308 GTB
1960 Mercedes 190SL
1983 Mercedes 500SL

