Sign of the times?

964RS · Post by **964RS** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:32 pm

No not the Prince song but just an observation. I've never seen so many RS/RSR/ST replicas for sale as there are at the moment.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.a ... TP&o=p&pc=

Are we seeing the excess of peoples luxury 'toys' over the last few years suddenly no longer being affordable in the current climate?

Don't want to be a gloom monger but seems that way to me? Reminds me of the rush of 997/996TT/996 that came to the market Jan-May of this year.....

Vic Cohen · Post by **Vic Cohen** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:14 am

SOME WELL KNOWN CARS IN THE FIRST FEW PAGES ...................cud the prices be something to do with why they re hanging around so long ?

IMO not terribly realistic , though we all know what it costs to build these ....................................

KS · Post by KS » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:56 am

Go further down and there are some real bargains there. Finally 3.3 Turbos are getting to be affordable. One day...

Check this deal!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1308499.htm

And if you want a cheap daily driver…
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1322111.htm

74rsman · Post by **74rsman** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:53 pm

Mines up as a result of bad timing rather than being unaffordable by me.
Its very hard to position it.

pete917 · Post by **pete917** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:38 am

KS wrote:Go further down and there are some real bargains there. Finally 3.3 Turbos are getting to be affordable. One day...

Check this deal!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1308499.htm

And if you want a cheap daily driver…
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1322111.htm

3.3 turbo. Now there's a nice 911

veryporky · Post by **veryporky** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:32 pm

Yeah but yeah but ....

Have you noticed that 75% of them are concentrated around 3 or so dealers. Could be commission sales but several of them do look a bit similar like they were done by one conversion specialist/trader ...

964RS · Post by **964RS** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:50 pm

red964 wrote:Mines up as a result of bad timing rather than being unaffordable by me.
Its very hard to position it.

Yours is nice and I know what you mean about where to position it, especially with so many on market.

My friend had a beautiful orange 3.6 rs rep, was on front cover of one of the 911 mags i believe....I won't tell you what he ended up getting for it

hot66 · Post by **hot66** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:16 pm

964RS wrote:
red964 wrote:Mines up as a result of bad timing rather than being unaffordable by me.
Its very hard to position it.
Yours is nice and I know what you mean about where to position it, especially with so many on market.

My friend had a beautiful orange 3.6 rs rep, was on front cover of one of the 911 mags i believe....I won't tell you what he ended up getting for it

that would have been 'gone in 60 seconds' ( ddk member) ex car ? Imported from the states. Looked a very nice machine

oldtimer · Post by **oldtimer** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:51 pm

Hi Jason ,I've been scratching my head to think of a worthwhile reply to your opening post....

You are right about the larger than normal supply of hotted up or replica or retro look 911s . I think Vic is right too about prices asked being optimistic and this being a sticking point so they are not shifting.

My feel for how far out the typical price point is - by 10 to 15k£

My rationale for what buyers of 'wannabees' want is either

A to create their own special 911 - however current economic climate not favourable to throwing money at non-essential indulgences

B to get a bargain that comes close in spec to their own wishlist (A) but at a significant saving on cost of A.....see my feel for this as above.

pete917 · Post by **pete917** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:58 pm

oldtimer wrote:Hi Jason ,I've been scratching my head to think of a worthwhile reply to your opening post....

You are right about the larger than normal supply of hotted up or replica or retro look 911s . I think Vic is right too about prices asked being optimistic and this being a sticking point so they are not shifting.

My feel for how far out the typical price point is - by 10 to 15k£

My rationale for what buyers of 'wannabees' want is either

A to create their own special 911 - however current economic climate not favourable to throwing money at non-essential indulgences

B to get a bargain that comes close in spec to their own wishlist (A) but at a significant saving on cost of A.....see my feel for this as above.

I tend to agree. Some people want the look and feel of the original, but dont have the money, but dont mind spending that bit extra.....

oldtimer · Post by **oldtimer** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:22 pm

Just adding a bit more to the thread , I was getting tempted to buy into having a 'type A' earlier this year , and asked a couple of suppliers what it would cost to have a RS / ST type thingy done....the consensus was 60k£ and upwards depending on exact engine spec and use of pukka parts.

I then looked at what was out there already done and close to my spec ( type'B') ....found a couple of options but 40-60k £ mark.

I didn't go and haggle as would have had to shift expectation of seller down to 30-32k £ .....as well as prepare to sell off one of my existing brace.

Got to say its very addictive to read about what Jason and Helen do , ie collect desirable Porsches , and its still tempting to see what is out there on offer ... but financial prudence has kept me safe thru 2009 ( almost there!)

74rsman · Post by **74rsman** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:18 pm

Great News
Agreed a sale on mine.

I say Wooo! - but I dont mean it in that way..
Im very chuffed with the buyer. Just right for the car me thinks!
very excited for him.

not dawned on me yet.
It will when there is an empty space in the garage

964RS · Post by **964RS** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:22 pm

red964 wrote:Great News
Agreed a sale on mine.

I say Wooo! - but I dont mean it in that way..
Im very chuffed with the buyer. Just right for the car me thinks!
very excited for him.

not dawned on me yet.
It will when there is an empty space in the garage

well done! My 964RS has just gone, garage space it sat in seems awfully bare at the mo

pete917 · Post by **pete917** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:33 pm

964RS wrote:
red964 wrote:Great News
Agreed a sale on mine.

I say Wooo! - but I dont mean it in that way..
Im very chuffed with the buyer. Just right for the car me thinks!
very excited for him.

not dawned on me yet.
It will when there is an empty space in the garage
well done! My 964RS has just gone, garage space it sat in seems awfully bare at the mo

How are you both intending to fill the empty spaces?

964RS · Post by **964RS** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:18 pm

Mine is already filled but is having a ground up restoration....

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