Busted!! What a nightmare.

ashrolfe · Post by **ashrolfe** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:54 pm

I'd only just picked it up from RS911 in Wales, when POW! 3 points gone.

35 in a temporary 30 zone (a few small roadworks) as well. Grrrrrr! Great pic though

Nige · Post by **Nige** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:56 pm

that's keen, bet the speedo on a 911 ain't that accurate either.

Helen · Post by **Helen** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:57 pm

must be hard driving that beauty that slow especially on an empty road

i always worry about the speedo readings on my cars they all seem to be well out.

pb911 · Post by **pb911** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:05 pm

ash

every time this happens to me I write and ask for a picture to allow me to confirm who was driving.

If you are not insured any driver then this tact doesnt work but I was given a set of letters that one can use in this instance.

thus far they have worked twice as the 2nd letter I send states that I canot ascertain form the photograph who was driving.

Touch wood on both occasions the matter was dropped.

Great pic though !

Paul

hot66 · Post by **hot66** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:13 pm

bugger

What is it with the Welsh & speed cameras ?

Gary, hope our DDK route is speed camera free

ashrolfe · Post by **ashrolfe** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:14 pm

I'm afraid I tried that! I said we were sharing the driving so didn't know who was behind the wheel (true). They said 'that's fine, you can take it up with the courts'. Basically, we've got to pay or go to court.. I think we'll just pay and take the points!

912uk · Post by **912uk** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:15 pm

that must be gutting for you...Well it does seam that the picture was taken from the other side of the road so where was the camera?

Hmm just looked at my Map book and cut out the whole of Wales based on the fact that I will not be going there again..

North Wales is Mr Speed Camera's patch, but at a national level he is head of what the Association of Chief Police Officers calls its road policing business area.

Did this most controversial of enforcers really say that drifting over the speed limit is as much of a crime as drifting a knife between someone's ribs?

ashrolfe · Post by **ashrolfe** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:17 pm

Helen wrote: must be hard driving that beauty that slow especially on an empty road

i always worry about the speedo readings on my cars they all seem to be well out.

You're right Helen.. My speedo is well out when comparing it to the speed on my (presumably accurate) GPS. I think the wheels must be a different size now or something.

Mitch · Post by **Mitch** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:55 pm

I've recently started using a Garmin Sat Nav on longer trips to give me a MPH reading, since my speedo is KMH. I was surprised to find that the old speedo is pretty much bang on, either that or they're both wrong

craig001 · Post by **craig001** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:17 pm

What you want to do is change the 0 to a 1 in front of the 35MPH at the top of that photo and frame it! 135MPH into a bend

jamie · Post by **jamie** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:27 pm

Quite a cool photo, with the road curving across to make the background. A friend has one of these shots framed in his bog - his Delta Integrale and two wheels off the ground.

35 is a bit harsh though. Did you see where the camera could have been?

hot66 · Post by **hot66** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:03 pm

jamie wrote:Quite a cool photo, with the road curving across to make the background. ....

Maybe you need a change of career Jamie .... I'm sure with your skills the North Wales police would offer a very competitive package

jamie · Post by **jamie** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:05 pm

Maybe not - I'd make everyone do two or three runs to get the shot right.

moggy · Post by **moggy** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:46 pm

You should try living here....it's a f**kin nightmare

Anyone who goes to see Mark needs to be VERY careful between the hours of 7am and 7pm (any day, including and especially Bank Holidays)and keep a very close eye out (to the point of paranoia) for the mobile vans:

If you come from Birmingham direction (i.e. M54, Telford etc) you are likely to see at least one camera. Most likely between Newtown and Llanidloes.

If you come from Manchester/Liverpool you will likely encounter betwwen 1 and 3 camera's

If you come from South Wales direction you will again likely encounter between 1 and 2 camera's. There very often one between Brecon and Builth.

South Wales are particularly partial to having them in road works on the dual carriageways.

Mis Wales are particularly partial to having them in villages (30 or 40) and on straights.

I do huge miles and travel all these roads on a daily basis and one thing to watch is that if a camera van is in one place on the way to Mark's it will certainly be in a different location on the way back so don't let your guard down!!!!

PREPARE FOR RANT

Unfortunatley having spoken (moaned!) to a local copper about this a year or so back he said it's all down to these roads being on the usual holiday routes for people for instance from Brum who are too used to dual carriageways or 30/40 mph driving in built up areas. As soon as they hit the roads of Wales (which lets face it...invite the more spirited driving

) put their foot down, take risks, start overtaking in STUPID places etc. For instance a few weeks back (and this is not an unusual event) I overtook a number of cars in a row on a straight, started going round the bend only to find in my mirror some muppet still overtaking as he was going AROUND the corner. When you see these family men with their whole family in the car, boot packed up to the roof with duvets etc doing stupid things like that all I can think of is not them (fuckem...idiots

) but the poor local person coming around the bend that has a head on into them. Live around here long enough, see enough of these crashes in the local papers and you start to develope a real bitter anger to people that travel into the area and treat it as a race track (don't get me started on bikes

). North Yorks is the same apparently (wife comes from there). Even when you're local you can fall fowl of coming round a corner you've driven around a million times only to find mud on the road and a tractor static, turning into a field (missed it by inches!!

)

So while travelling into Wales keep this in mind, beware the camera's they're all over the place and they're sneaky feckers. Don't take stupid risks as the roads taunt you to do it, just enjoy them within your bounds.

Sorry for the rant but over the past 5yrs my local race track (ahem I mean local roads

) have been spoilt (along with a number of local lives) because of the actions of idiots from away turning into risk taking morons. The local copper said he used a poignant analogy when grilling someone speeding "how would you like it if I came to where you live drove like that and nearly killed your son/daughter in a car coming the other way. What would you say to that person if you caught up with them and had your chance to say something....cos thats the conversation I'm trying to have with you now" or something like that

I'm starting to sound like some local yocal

"Local roads for local people.... we'l have no Brummies 'ere"

(Don't get me started on West Mids pensioners retiring here and refusing local road rallies going past their nice quiet house, even though the event happened for years fine before they arrived

). I'd better stop before I completely alienate the whole of England

Having said that though, nice picture and even nicer car

Barry · Post by **Barry** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:15 pm

Whilst on the subject of cameras, what's the current legal position on radar detectors?

I've got satnav, which is updateable for fixed (and temporary) camera positions, but what about actual detectors?