G50 Box Short shift option Carrera CS

sladey · Post by **sladey** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:44 am

I know it's not strictly relating to an early 911, but doesn't anyone know anything about the G50 on the carrera clubsport

In an article in 911&PW earlier this year it mentioned the short shifter for the G50 as an enhancement - does anyone know if this can be applied to other 3.2's of the same era?

And whilst we're in anorak mode.......

It also talks about slightly different engine mounts for those cars - anyone know how different, why they are different, and again is it a mod worth carrying over to mine

Thanks for any help, or pointers in the right direction

Mark

Nick Moss · Post by **Nick Moss** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:37 pm

You will find help on http://www.impactbumpers.com

FLY 7 · Post by **FLY 7** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:25 pm

I think the 911 Club Sport had numerous minor modifications. It may have also had a slightly different 5th gear ratio. The engine mounts were different - same as Cab, I believe, not sure why.

johndglynn · Post by **johndglynn** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:44 am

The CS had lots of bits changed, but as one of our guys aptly pointed out in a discussion about Clubbies, Porsche left the 'juicy hanging fruit' of the heavy clutch, pressure plate, battery, exhaust etc and went for the easy stuff; deleting the passenger sun visor etc. Those cars could have been much lighter.

You can fit the short shift to any car but some short shifts are better than others. The factory one is the one they all want.

The M637 engine mounts are shared with Cabrio, but then the Cab and Speedster have an additional vibration damper that the coupes do not have/need.

I dunno whether top gear was taller than the rest, it was 38/40kgs lighter and had a slightly higher rev limit so had a few mph extra, but I think the ratios were the same. I'm no expert though. IIRC a certain ex-Club Sport owner saw a gps-verified 152mph and climbing somewhere in the South East (no comment on the location Constable).

Thanks for the plug Nick (nearly a CS owner from new himself)

Nick Moss · Post by **Nick Moss** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:51 pm

OK you asked for it!

I actually ordered one back in October 1987 from Maltin Porsche in Henley, Oxfordshire, but I didn't take delivery. The invoice price was £34,389.98

I have the original spec sheet which was just a photo-copied sheet from Porsche GB.

*****************************

911 Carrera Coupe in 'Club Sport Version' (M637)

Base Model: 911 Carrera Coupe

Exterior colours: Grand Prix White / red decals / red wheel centres

Interiors: all standard interiors, (leather front and rear seats) there is a lot of stuff tipexed out here, so the available interior is a bit unclear.

Order codes: M637 - club sport version

+ M541 - radio preparation (2 speakers & antenna amp)

+ P42 - Group number comprising:

Shortened gear lever (M243)
Sports shock absorbers (M474)
Front and rear spoilers (M473)
Rear storage box in place of seats (M419)
6 and 7J x 16 forged alloy wheels (M395)

All other M-options can be ordered with the exception of the following:

M058 M438 M139 M454 M197 M491 M286 M498 (STD) M288 M513 M326 M525 M340 M526 M341 M533 M383 M559 M387 M586 M425 M650 M430 M975 M437

Body: deletion of:

1. rear seats
2. back & sidewall trim
3. sound insulation(except for engine comp and roof section)
4. PVC undercoating
5. Additional blower with cover and control knob
6. Automatic heating control
7. lockable front hood
8. sunvisor, passenger side
9. lid of storage compartment in doors
10. activated carbon container
11. coat hook
12. Carrera lettering

Deviating from standard version

1. Manual window levers
2. front spoiler w/out opening for fog lights
3. rear section covered with carpeting
4. sidewalls, front, covering with carpet
5. new combination seats (base cushion and sports seat backrest) w/out electrical height adj, in cloth or cloth/leatherette only
6. manual heating levers behind handbrake lever on right
7. separate chassis number as of 14th digit (number starting with 5001)

Chassis

Deviating from std Carrera Sport

1. w/out lockable wheel nuts
2. Alu spare wheel
3. engine mount, same as 911 Carrera Cab.

Engine:

Deviating from std version

1. intake valves (hollow valves)
2. Electronic control unit for 6840 RPM mac
3. Crankcae and cylinder heads with 'SP' marking

Electrical system

deletion of

1. fog lights, front
2. engine and luggage comp lights
3. radio prep (except cables)

Deviating fron standard version:

1. rev counter with modified 'red line' section
2. simpilfied cable harness
3. starter cable with reduced diameter

Homologation

1. registered as 2 seater
2. unladen weight 1,160 Kg

sladey · Post by **sladey** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:12 am

Thanks for all that

John/Nick - do you know where I could get hold of a

Shortened gear lever (M243)

Or do I just take a hacksaw to my own

I've not seen any short shift kits advertised for G50's - plenty for 915's but none for G50's

Cheers

Mark

johndglynn · Post by **johndglynn** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:54 am

Two names spring to mind on G50 shifters/kits: Wevo and Weltmeister.

Wevo G50 here - page 2.

Weltmeister G50 SS fitting guide.

sladey · Post by **sladey** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:51 am

Thanks John

impmad2000 · Post by **impmad2000** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:03 am

nick-moss wrote: Deviating fron standard version:

3. starter cable with reduced diameter

Wow ! That is taking things v. seroiusly ! If it don't start, dont keep trying !