@*%&~#/ paintshop

bonerp · Post by **bonerp** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:39 am

Good point Disco, to pay £3000 until resolved.

I think Trading Standards could be more useful threat than court. My experience of the small claims process isnt great. A roofing firm in town were judged in my favour to pay back the money paid for poor repairs that resulted in further damage. That was 2 years ago and still waiting!

bonerp · Post by **bonerp** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:54 am

Heres the actual breakdown:

Underneath of vehicle: Sprayable Sealer 224.28 16.02x14
Applicator 50.87
Labour 330.00
Total: 605.15

Materials & Sundries: Primer 15Ltrs 291.43
1x Hardener for Primer 37.52
1x 320 strips 34.28
1x 180DA’s 47.61
1x 320DA’s 47.61
1x 500DA’s 47.61
1x 1000 Wet & Dry 20.99
1x 10Ltrs Lacquer }
1x 5Ltrs Hardener for Laq } As a package 358.50
1x 5LtrsThinner }
1x Ultimer 48.24
2x Gravi Tex 30.10
1x Tiger Seal 13.30
1x Guide Coat 14.29
1x Spreaders 3.50
Total: 994.98

Paint applied: 12Ltrs of Condor Yellow
Total: 717.12

Total cost of labour: 1682.75

Total cost of job: 4000.00

356california · Post by **356california** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:55 am

15 litres of primer AND 12 litres of paint????? Is the body an inch thicker!!!!???

There is no way they would get a penny over the maximum £2500 off me. Once you have paid they could tie this situation up in loads of litigation and make it impossible for you to get your money back.

Take a witness, pay him the £2500. If he refuses to give you the car, call the police. Make sure you have all paperwork originally given to you.

Also advise a solicitor asap.

Would be good to know who this is, i need a few jobs doing and i have two friends looking to build soon.
Dont protect someone who is taking advantage to put it mildly

thanks

adam356 · Post by **adam356** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:22 am

So basically they have put on 15 litres of primer, 12 litres of paint and inc thinners and hardeners as they have quoted 20 liters of laquer, that makes 47 litres of paint gone onto your vehicle, thats enough to paint 5 double decker buses!!!

Deffinatley tell them you are going to take the car to get it analysed to see the paint thickness which will tell how much paint they have actually put on.

Dont pay the £4k as you will never get it back. Get some legal advice before going down and quote it.

adam

DIRKBROWNFINGER · Post by **DIRKBROWNFINGER** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:26 am

As they the colour mix themselves, you cant see an invoice for the yellow from a supplier can you? Its your word against theirs, so a paint specialist would be an option - but an additional cost. Ask to see original invoices for the other materials. That would only prove they had bought the items, not neccesarily that they used them on your car though. Small claims didnt work that well for me with a paint dispute even with the specialist I used. I would definitley query the amount of paint they claim to have used, and maybe speak to a couple of the trade guys on here to see how much they would put on your car.

It sounds dodgy so you will have to play hardball with them I reckon.

cubist · Post by **cubist** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:42 pm

At least you're saving money not having to buy expensive adjustable suspension lowering gidgets... 47 litres my arse!!!

Good luck with your tallest, widest and hardest mate in tow

Stevie B · Post by **Stevie B** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:44 pm

Take the boys round with your cheque for £2500. Then ask the sprayer for a receipt confirming your bill has been paid in full.

Dont get ripped off by someone who thinks you know nothing about spraying a car.
Small claims court doesn't work.

best of luck
Steve

356california · Post by **356california** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:16 pm

Actually thats exactly what id do. Fill the car with your biggest mates and calmly pick the car up with your £2500 cheque. robbing B*****d.

Im sure theres a few people on here who'd turn up, i certainly would!

bonerp · Post by **bonerp** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:40 pm

I might try the tactile way first

Adam is hopefully looking at some prices of materials etc.... Using the points from your guys, ie enough paint to repaint 5 buses etc, and copying this forum thread (if you all don't mind - references to DDK etc have been removed), and eventually getting the paint thickness measured, I will send this onto them for review before i collect on Friday.

If it gets nasty I will just call the cops.

Paul

cubist · Post by **cubist** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:36 pm

356california wrote:robbing b*****d

100% agree...

Happy to be quoted.

stevesprite · Post by **stevesprite** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:37 pm

With that much paint on I would really be worried that the paint would sag !! must have baked it for ages to get it to go hard !!

Good luck with sorting this out !

bonerp · Post by **bonerp** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:56 pm

Steve
What do you mean paint sag??? It looked good yesterday.

stevesprite · Post by **stevesprite** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:46 pm

I meant, that with 47 litres of paint ( undercoat, topcoat and laquer)
(Thats over 10 gallons) It would be pretty thick and would take a lot of drying/curing.

I would be very suprised if they had used that much though, Im trying to picture 10 gallons poured over the surface area of a speedster

bonerp · Post by **bonerp** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:51 am

yeah i know what you mean with picturing that much paint!

I have now written to them and been very polite so I'll see what they come back with.

thanks to everyones input - even the 'send round the boys' suggestions

I'll let you know where we go next. Might need to borrow a few of you yet

ims101 · Post by **ims101** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:51 am

bonerp wrote:
I'll let you know where we go next. Might need to borrow a few of you yet

I think Rich is your best bet he's a burly builder!

I'm just a gurly hairdresser, always been more of a lover than a fighter

Good luck tho mate