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Thinking of selling - Any idea on valuation?

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I'm thinking of selling my 70T. Not that I don't still love it, its just that I feel I've completed the journey and want to move on to something that I can faff with again.

I originally bought it in 2012 from Germany, where it had previously lived its entire life. I was living in Poland at the time, so I imported it into Poland, then it came with me to Switzerland when I moved there, and now to the UK, when I finally came home in 2019.

I've spent a small fortune on it, including some extensive (30k) bodywork around the front end, which was poorly restored by the previous owner, whereas the rest of the bodywork is pretty much faultless. I also swapped the engine, which is based on a 1979 3.0 SC engine and is now a 3.2 short stroke twin plugged beast (although I have the original matching numbers engine too).

I've just had the window frames restored by Nick Moss and the dials restored by Julian Reap. It has a lot of lightweight parts (carbon doors, carbon bonnet, fibreglass front wings and rear bumper, aluminium engine lid (although I also have a matching ducktail for it). It also has RS flares, a lightweight RS interior with a 380mm RS steering wheels. The 8x15 rear wheels and geniune 7R fronts were restored by Art wheels in France. The seats are Scheel S400 Rallye seats, which are period correct and used by Porsche in some rallies (so I have been led to believe).

I've been documenting my journey here: https://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewt ... 28&t=59241

I'd be interested in your thoughts on potential value in the current market and where to advertise it. It's obviously not 100% original and might attract a more niche market.

Many thanks

Paul
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Good luck with the replies Paul, recently asked the same of my 'hot rod' 73T.
IMHO try £60K or more.
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There are references in your thread to the original colour being signal orange and tangerine which are of course different. Can you confirm which it is please?

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210bhp wrote:There are references in your thread to the original colour being signal orange and tangerine which are of course different. Can you confirm which it is please?

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Hi Mike,
The original colour was BlutOrange / Tangerine. I have thought about putting it back to the original colour over the years, but as the silver paint is very good I've not done that. However, when I had the front end repaired, I had them paint the inner wings and luggage area in the original BlutOrange and then oversprayed in back, as per the original factory finish. As there's no sound proofing in the car, a respray should be fairly simple.

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A Bit more info on the spec:

Engine (Currently Fitted)
· 1979 3.0 SC engine (originally a low mileage engine from a Sportomatic).
· Full rebuild in 2016 by Bienert Boxer Motoren in Manching, Germany to 3.2 Short Stroke spec.
· Refurbished heads. New valves and stronger springs.
· Cams DC60
· Amber fibreglass engine shroud
· Crank polished and balanced
· New ‘Carillo’ rods. These are not actually branded Carillo, but come from the same factory and are identical in every way according to my engine builder.
· Original Mahle cylinders bored out from 95mm to 98mm. Cylinders then re-Nikasil coated by a specialist in the UK.
· New Mahle 98mm pistons, 10.5:1 compression ratio
· GT3 oil pump
· 46mm PMO carbs
· JBR Twin plug ignition (done by BS Motorsport in 2019)
· Engine Dyno’d at 260 bhp with the stock exhaust (which cookie cutter tail pipes for extra bling).
· Turbo Thomas twin outlet exhaust
· Twin Classic Retrofit CDI Ignition
· Lightweight Flywheel
· Sports clutch
· Stainless Steel Heat Exchangers.
· 3.0 RS repro airbox.

Original matching numbers engine
· Currently half way through a cosmetic rebuild. Needs the carbs refurbished and a few other bits, but is complete other than the heat exchangers.
· No Heat exchangers (I used them for the 3.2)
· Original exhaust
· 2 original airboxes with snorkels
· Original CDI box

Suspension
· Stock other than new rear bushings when the trailing arms were powder coated in 2019.

Bodywork
· Orginally BlutOrange (Tangerine) non sunroof 1970 T coupe. Resprayed in Porsche colour code 6206 Silver Metallic
· No sound insulation at all
· Doors and bonnet, both carbon
· Front Wings – Glassfibre
· Rear engine lid – aluminium
· Front Bumper – Original 1972 S bumper.
· Original RS rear flares
· RS Lightweight rear bumper with twin outlet exhaust.
· Front windows re-anodised (2021) by Nick Moss (Early911.co.uk)
· Original 8x15 read Fuchs refurbished by Art wheels, France 2018
· Original 7x15 genuine 7R Fuchs refurbished by Art wheels, France 2018
· Spare wheel 6x15 Fuchs with heart.
· Complete toolkit (a mix or original and repro tools) in a repro toolbelt.
· 7mm rear spacers
· Original Bosch silver rimmed Euro spec indicator lenses all round
· Black Porsche script along the side
· Original S badges in gold on the glovebox and engine lid.
· AFS horn grills
· Original H1 RHD headlights with raised Bosch lettering. Fully refurbished.
· Original coil type oil cooler with the original Porsche oil pipes running along the side of the car.
· Spare Parts:
o Original rear bumper
o RS decklid with ducktail (painted in 6206)

Interior
· RS Lightweight carpets
· Dials refurbished (2021) by Julian Reap (Reap Automotive). Tacho red line as per 1970 S (to match the engine redline).
· No Sound insulation
· RS 380mm steering wheel with butterfly horn push
· Scheel SR 400 Rallye seats
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1970 2.2 911 T / Ex RS Clone, now more original looking, with 1979 3.2 SS engine (sold)
1988 3.2 Carrera Commemorative edition (sold)
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You could always try John Glynn (also runs Impact Bumpers) for something more authoritative in terms of a value.
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