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Thank you for the help everyone. The resistance was 0-70 ohms. I took it apart and cleaned it. However it was pretty clean already. I have about 3/4 of tank in so I don't know if I've fixed the problem yet.

The bolts are a pain to get back on

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Could I use this as a oil pressure gauge?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303958438118

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Only just caught up with your thread Neil, good to hear you have got the car back. A little disappointing that you are unimpressed with the performance of the rebuild.
Maybe it will improve with a few miles and put a smile on your face.
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neilbardsley wrote:Could I use this as a oil pressure gauge?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303958438118

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You could... but you'd also need the correct sender to match. But you don't need a 0–10bar gauge (basically 0-145psi) - you only need a 0–5bar gauge (with suitable sender) or the gauge will spend it's time wallowing around the bottom end of the scale.
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AndrewSlater wrote:Only just caught up with your thread Neil, good to hear you have got the car back. A little disappointing that you are unimpressed with the performance of the rebuild.
Maybe it will improve with a few miles and put a smile on your face.
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That is what is happening. I think my expectations where too high. The engine does need to be reved a bit too get going. Really comes alive from 3-5k

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Glued the headliner back to the roof and too k it out for a drive with the top down. What a pain to put back on. Years ago when Andrew and Sarah demonstrated taking their roof off/on, their GT clone, they made it look so easy.

Starting to enjoy it alot more. Just need to get the fuel gauge sorted so I can take on a road tripImage

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Today I established that it definitely the fuel sender. Just as KS said at the beginning. I found another thread which said the resistance should be 0-90 ohms. I checked the resistance in the wire from the gauge to the sender and it's 1 ohm so no shorts. I cleaned all the contracts and replaced all the fuses. I then double checked the resistance on the sender at 4-69 ohms. Next we put 100 ohm resistor in circuit, although the multi meter claimed 80, and saw the needle move to empty. Maybe I need to take the sender apart again and clean? Son no 3 a EEE graduate was helping so I've suggested to him he could do a resistance multiplier circuit for me. 1st year undergraduate work surely!

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Will this fit my fuse box?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283301100499

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neilbardsley wrote:Today I established that it definitely the fuel sender. Just as KS said at the beginning. I found another thread which said the resistance should be 0-90 ohms. I checked the resistance in the wire from the gauge to the sender and it's 1 ohm so no shorts. I cleaned all the contracts and replaced all the fuses. I then double checked the resistance on the sender at 4-69 ohms. Next we put 100 ohm resistor in circuit, although the multi meter claimed 80, and saw the needle move to empty. Maybe I need to take the sender apart again and clean? Son no 3 a EEE graduate was helping so I've suggested to him he could do a resistance multiplier circuit for me. 1st year undergraduate work surely!

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Hi Neil,

If it helps, I have a good S/H 914 fuel tank sender. The only part that may be suspect is the contact for the low level light.
I replaced it as i ran out of petrol several times when the gauge still read 1/4 full. Unfortunately buying and fitting a new sender didn't solve the problem, which I traced later to a blocked outlet filter gauze, which didn't allow fuel through once the level dropped below the top of it........... :roll:

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Thank you that might be of help. It now reads 1/4 when empty :).

I think you are saying yours had 1/4 tank left but the fuel couldn't get out!

If yours has 85/90 ohms resistance when empty it could help.

Drove the 914 to a local meet and lost this trim from the rear right!

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This is my gauge with the original sender plugged in. As you can see, the low fuel light does work, but the gauge reads between rhe leg of the R and the tip of the 1/4 when empty. On my meter, it reads about 82 ohms.

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Thank you. I have pmed you. Does the 6 have a temperature gauge and not the 4?

Now that I have gone back to carbs I think I need one!

The full beam wasn't working so I changed the bulb but it still didn't work. Then I added a missing fuse and it worked.

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Yes, the 6 has a temperature gauge as standard. I fitted dipstick sensor temperature gauges to our 914/4 and our Type 4 engined Bay vans, and they worked well and were simple to install. I sometimes had to back off in the vans because the temp was climbing, but not in the 914. Thinking about it, I had an external cooler fitted to the 914 under the grille on the engine lid, that probably helped!

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Nice touch Jonathan. Thank you. Sender receivedImageImage

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