912 case cracked. what to do?
912 case cracked. what to do?
Hello friends,
I'm new here even though I registered a while back while i searched for a car. I recently acquired my dream, a 1966 912. It had been standing for a while with the previous owner and I've only just started to look at all the problems. The plan is to get it up and running as is and sort things out over time.. sort of rolling restoration?
The big dent in that plan is what I found when I put in fresh oil and it completed drained out. As you can see the crack is pretty big and I am sad as its a matching numbers car (although its been repainted from og irish green to red).
so what to do? replace the cases? or can they be repaired? I would like to keep it a matching numbers car. Please excuse my noob questions as I'm new at it.
I'm new here even though I registered a while back while i searched for a car. I recently acquired my dream, a 1966 912. It had been standing for a while with the previous owner and I've only just started to look at all the problems. The plan is to get it up and running as is and sort things out over time.. sort of rolling restoration?
The big dent in that plan is what I found when I put in fresh oil and it completed drained out. As you can see the crack is pretty big and I am sad as its a matching numbers car (although its been repainted from og irish green to red).
so what to do? replace the cases? or can they be repaired? I would like to keep it a matching numbers car. Please excuse my noob questions as I'm new at it.
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Re: 912 case cracked. what to do?
We have just finished rebuilding a 356 Engine that was original to the car and was cracked in 3 places
Post some more Photos - I cannot work out where that crack is and how it has happened
I cannot imagine that it is not repairable but if that turns out to be the case (sorry for the pun) then we have a number of 912 cases
Post some more Photos - I cannot work out where that crack is and how it has happened
I cannot imagine that it is not repairable but if that turns out to be the case (sorry for the pun) then we have a number of 912 cases
Mike at P.R.S.
www.prs356.com
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Re: 912 case cracked. what to do?
Looks like the sump area, leading edge (can see the sump plate, fins and drain bolt). Must have taken a hefty impact.
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Re: 912 case cracked. what to do?
Yep - you are probably correct
Should not be a problem although it looks like a chunk missing, so we might have to slice a bit out of a scrap case to repair it
Still not a problem
Should not be a problem although it looks like a chunk missing, so we might have to slice a bit out of a scrap case to repair it
Still not a problem
Mike at P.R.S.
www.prs356.com
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Re: 912 case cracked. what to do?
Ah that gives me hope.. its a difficult place to photograph. i did make a video. https://youtu.be/6Uap2I4tJPAMike Smith wrote:We have just finished rebuilding a 356 Engine that was original to the car and was cracked in 3 places
Post some more Photos - I cannot work out where that crack is and how it has happened
I cannot imagine that it is not repairable but if that turns out to be the case (sorry for the pun) then we have a number of 912 cases
Yes its the sump area.Bruce M wrote:Looks like the sump area, leading edge (can see the sump plate, fins and drain bolt). Must have taken a hefty impact.
what material is it? will any scrap case do? that is non Porsche? I can load the metal on and fill the crack and then machine it. Alternatively I have a Auto Linea VW universal case but I'm not sure if I can use that and transplant the rest (if the original cases are non repairable).Mike Smith wrote:Yep - you are probably correct
Should not be a problem although it looks like a chunk missing, so we might have to slice a bit out of a scrap case to repair it
Still not a problem
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Re: 912 case cracked. what to do?
Well, it certainly looks like a big old hit and it will depend on any other damage that may be found
Whatever is the final decision the engine has to come out be cleaned and examined
Whatever is the final decision the engine has to come out be cleaned and examined
Mike at P.R.S.
www.prs356.com
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Re: 912 case cracked. what to do?
yes no way around it. from what I can tell the material. its more a separation gap caused by hitting a rock or something.Mike Smith wrote:Well, it certainly looks like a big old hit and it will depend on any other damage that may be found
Whatever is the final decision the engine has to come out be cleaned and examined
just reconfirming..the blocks the aluminium right? and not magnesium?
Thanks for all your help guys! will keep posting as i get further.
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Re: 912 case cracked. what to do?
Yes, it is aluminum NOT Mag.
We have a number of cases that are not worth rebuilding, for many different reasons, so it is easier enough to cut a matching piece of material from one of them and then graft it into your case - IF! that proves to be actually necessary
We have a number of cases that are not worth rebuilding, for many different reasons, so it is easier enough to cut a matching piece of material from one of them and then graft it into your case - IF! that proves to be actually necessary
Mike at P.R.S.
www.prs356.com
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Re: 912 case cracked. what to do?
ah that's great! will keep that in mind. for now it's gonna sit till after xmas..lack of time and funds.Mike Smith wrote:Yes, it is aluminum NOT Mag.
We have a number of cases that are not worth rebuilding, for many different reasons, so it is easier enough to cut a matching piece of material from one of them and then graft it into your case - IF! that proves to be actually necessary
Thanks again for all your help!
Re: 912 case cracked. what to do?
Did you get your case fixed? I have a 912 case for sale. It's a matching case with all 3 pieces but you could always bolt your third piece onto it to kind of keep your engine number (albeit the 3 digit case number will differ - unless by a 999 to 1 shot they also match!!
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Re: 912 case cracked. what to do?
Yes that can be welded I have repaired several aluminium cases off various different things
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Re: 912 case cracked. what to do?
Why don't you introduce yourself on the introduction thread?Tinman wrote:Yes that can be welded I have repaired several aluminium cases off various different things
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