356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Replica owners or enthusiasts are very welcome

Moderator: Bootsy

Post Reply
mdmax72
Put a fork in me, I'm done!
Posts: 1512
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:23 pm
Location: midlands u.k

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by mdmax72 »

Have you got it fired up yet??
Rich

DDK Member 0547

Evolving Speedster Build ;-)
greg356a
I luv DDK!
Posts: 925
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:16 am
Location: Norwich area
Contact:

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by greg356a »

Morning,
No loud brum brum noises yet, except when I am sitting the the drivers seat :)

One step closer
Image
1963 Karmann Ghia
1959 356A Coupe Outlaw
1957 3.2 Speedster replica
1988 924 Le Mans
mdmax72
Put a fork in me, I'm done!
Posts: 1512
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:23 pm
Location: midlands u.k

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by mdmax72 »

Any updates Greg, has the beast took its first breath of fuel and air.

Looks a tight fit in the trailer.
Rich

DDK Member 0547

Evolving Speedster Build ;-)
greg356a
I luv DDK!
Posts: 925
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:16 am
Location: Norwich area
Contact:

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by greg356a »

Hi Rich,
surprisingly tight on the trailer, normally used for a 944 race car so should be wide enough but only just. No deep throated noises yet. I think the next update will be about the speedster ali seats being made, we will see.
1963 Karmann Ghia
1959 356A Coupe Outlaw
1957 3.2 Speedster replica
1988 924 Le Mans
greg356a
I luv DDK!
Posts: 925
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:16 am
Location: Norwich area
Contact:

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by greg356a »

Whilst the Speedster is at the garage I thought I would start getting the paper work ready for IVA starting with the spec so far:

356 speedster replica build details
Donor vehicles

Porsche 944 (1990) VIN/ chassis number WP0ZZZ94ZKNxxxxxx – Supplied key components; front and rear suspension, both stub axles, both drive shafts and CV joints, steering rack and corresponding steering column, all four disc brakes including handbrake drums, cable and lever.
Porsche 911 2.7 Targa (1976). Chassis Serial 9116xxxxxx – engine number 636xxxx, transmission number 915/62 730 09 15, - Supplied key components; donated Instrument clocks (speedo, tachometer, oil, fuel) modified with green and black dials chrome bezel and set to Zero miles, oil tank and cooler, clutch. 915 gearbox, with standard electronic speedometer. Final drive ratio 8:31 (3.875)
VW Beetle (1969) VIN/ chassis number 119xxxxxx provided the floor pan and back bone chassis with suspension brackets

Chassis
The backbone of a VW beetle fabricated using steel tubes (2.5 mm thick) running front to back with brackets for front suspension and rear engine mounts. Steel rectangular tube (3 mm) used underneath floor pan to increase strength which runs from front to back and interconnects with internal roll bars. New floor pan floors and sill sections. All brackets and mountings welded in situation as per original datum’s. Triangulated semi- space frame chassis designed and manufactured to provide frame rigidity/ stiffness passenger safety and front crumple zone. Everything TIG welded for maximum weld penetration and strength tested.

Body
Brand new Speedster Clinic ltd body, Front bonnet, Rear single grill engine lid, Doors, Pre-fitted front luggage area, Headlight bowls and battery tray, Rear luggage compartment bonded in, Flow coated under side of body, 3 piece engine bay kit, Stainless steel hinge kit and fittings.

Engine
Pair 40 Tin Zenith carbs and manifolds circa 1972 refurbished by Crayford Classics. 2.7 set up for CIS cams. Venturi = 32, Main jet = 135, Air jet = 180, Idle jet = 55.

Suspension
Porsche 944 Turbo
Suspension (front and back) Axles (both), Steering assembly, Whole rear axles with new standard cv joints fitted. Rear aluminium trailing A arms with new wheel bearings. Rear anti roll bar with new bushes . Rear springing is provided by new coil over adjustable shock absorber units and uniball
Whole front suspension, including standard stub axles, steel cross-member welded to chassis, standard lower control arms and anti-roll/ drop links with new bushes. Standard top mounts. Front springing is provided by new standard design coil over adjustable shock absorber units. Standard steering rack connected to the standard steering column via shaft with double joint CV joints for safety on impact.

Brakes
Porsche 944 donated front and rear 4 pot Brembo brake calipers refurbished /painted with new piston and seals, new discs, brackets . Standard handbrake cable short Porsche 944 type with adjusting plate fitted to top of tunnel and connected via original umbrella couplings to handbrake
Pots 40, 36, 30 and 28 mm.

Wheels/ Tyres
Front Toyo T1-R 205 55 16 91W Overall diameter: 633mm and rear Toyo T1-R 225 50 16 92W Overall diameter: 632mm. Difference between front/ back diameter.
Original 1976 tyre size 185/70 15 = 640mm 1.1% difference hence no impact on speedo.

Now to catalogue all the receipts etc or maybe a coffee and cake first :)
1963 Karmann Ghia
1959 356A Coupe Outlaw
1957 3.2 Speedster replica
1988 924 Le Mans
mdmax72
Put a fork in me, I'm done!
Posts: 1512
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:23 pm
Location: midlands u.k

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by mdmax72 »

Lot of detail there Greg. Reads an impressive build.;-)

Did you sort out your designed Axle weights?
Rich

DDK Member 0547

Evolving Speedster Build ;-)
greg356a
I luv DDK!
Posts: 925
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:16 am
Location: Norwich area
Contact:

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by greg356a »

Hello, picture update

Rich, not sorted out the weights yet, will have a look. :)

Image

Image

Image
1963 Karmann Ghia
1959 356A Coupe Outlaw
1957 3.2 Speedster replica
1988 924 Le Mans
mdmax72
Put a fork in me, I'm done!
Posts: 1512
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:23 pm
Location: midlands u.k

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by mdmax72 »

Take it those chain tensioners aren't standard, upgrade??
Rich

DDK Member 0547

Evolving Speedster Build ;-)
greg356a
I luv DDK!
Posts: 925
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:16 am
Location: Norwich area
Contact:

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by greg356a »

Morning Rich, no they are about 1/2 the price. Some say they are better with no issues, others seem less convinced. As far as engine upgrades, very mild, got rebuilt carbs, SS Turbo Thomas exhaust, top end rebuild which should give maybe 160 to 170 bhp but lots of torque. A built vw would probably give more but not the sound. Matching the 5 speed 915 gearbox and engine should give plenty of drive-ability. :)
1963 Karmann Ghia
1959 356A Coupe Outlaw
1957 3.2 Speedster replica
1988 924 Le Mans
greg356a
I luv DDK!
Posts: 925
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:16 am
Location: Norwich area
Contact:

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by greg356a »

Rich,

I have been trying to find the information on axle weights etc, but just cant seem to find it. Any chance you could explain again?

I found a great IVA link for the top 10 reasons why people fail which is really good:

http://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio ... eadlampaim

:)
1963 Karmann Ghia
1959 356A Coupe Outlaw
1957 3.2 Speedster replica
1988 924 Le Mans
mdmax72
Put a fork in me, I'm done!
Posts: 1512
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:23 pm
Location: midlands u.k

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by mdmax72 »

Morning Greg

For the Iva you'll need to give the designed axle weight for front and back. Your vehicle will be weighed during the Iva test to see if it comes in under or at the designed axle weight. Also the weight will be set against the braking efficiency of your car. So don't go to overboard with the axle weights.

You can get the axle weights from the donor log book for the front minus the weight of the engine. If your using the 911 axle and suspension maybe the 911 boys n gals can give this info from there log book?? Or if you have access to some scales even better.

I had to get an email from chesil confirming the weights but I'm sure you can get around that or if Gary's happy to confirm the weights??
Rich

DDK Member 0547

Evolving Speedster Build ;-)
greg356a
I luv DDK!
Posts: 925
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:16 am
Location: Norwich area
Contact:

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by greg356a »

Evening all,

well got these from an Italian craftsman who normally deals in Ferrari so the quality is excellent and cost a lot less than in the UK

Image

Image

Image

Image

Need to fabricate some headrests and suitable base etc. :)
1963 Karmann Ghia
1959 356A Coupe Outlaw
1957 3.2 Speedster replica
1988 924 Le Mans
mdmax72
Put a fork in me, I'm done!
Posts: 1512
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:23 pm
Location: midlands u.k

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by mdmax72 »

Look really good Greg, must be chuffed. Are you going to cover them or just use a pad for your arse?

Be interested to see what ideas you have for headrests, has they sit low on your back.
Rich

DDK Member 0547

Evolving Speedster Build ;-)
mdmax72
Put a fork in me, I'm done!
Posts: 1512
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:23 pm
Location: midlands u.k

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by mdmax72 »

Here's what I came up for my seat frames. May give you an idea or direction??

Image
Rich

DDK Member 0547

Evolving Speedster Build ;-)
oliver365
DDK slapper chatter
Posts: 463
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:25 am
Location: cheshire

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build

Post by oliver365 »

Seats are awsome :thumbleft:
Post Reply