Super Pro Bushes - long post with images

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Super Pro Bushes - long post with images

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Guys

Just spent a big chunk of my weekend fitting the Super Pro rear trailing arm and spring plate bushes I bought from Nick recently and thought I'd share my experiences with you.

My car previously had a terrible ride, really harsh, noisy and every imperfection in the road was transmitted into the car. As I live in probably the worst place for poor road surfaces in the UK (I kid you not), this didn't make for a particularly enjoyable driving experience; sometimes the 'crash' over really bad surfaces sounded like someone was hitting the car with a large lump hammer.

When I pulled the old bushes out, it was hardly surprising that my car was so bad - they'd obviously been in situ since the car was new and were clearly in need of urgent replacement.

Here's a picture of the old alongside the new rear trailing arm bushes:

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I was really dreading fitting them as I've read so many stories of ill-fitting bushings that can be real bastards to install. Nick's not paid me to say this, but Super Pro bushes are honestly an absolute doddle - they fitted with minimal effort (I pushed them home by hand) and the metal flange that you insert down the middle afterwards (shown at the top of the picture above) was equally simple to push home.

Removing the old bushes from the trailing arm was also straightforward. Forget peeling back the old units with a knife and vice grips - just give the torsion bar cover a generous application of heat first (when removed from the car obviously) and they come off quite painlessly.

The final fears I had was that the ride would be too hard and the new bushes would squeak - something I believe many have experienced with a poly setup; nothing could be further from the truth and I have found myself actually going out of my way to drive over imperfections to marvel at how good the ride is. And no squeaks either - I liberally applied the lubricant supplied in accordance with the instructions and everything seems quiet. Let's hope it continues.

FWIW I would advise anyone with even the remotest suspicion that their suspension bushes have seen better days to invest in these with confidence that they will improve the ride quality and if Sunday's run is anything to go by, handling.

Even if you don't fit them yourself, they shouldn't cost a fortune and you'll be glad you did.

Here's a few more pictures of work in progress (apologies for not taking more, but once up to my eyes in muck I didn't really want to touch my camera again).

Saturday morning, engine out from Friday evening activities - very much the calm before the storm. Not my garage (sadly), nor my toys - very original 914/6, second owner 3.2 cab, my 2.4T and an externally very nice 2.0E. The 356 is having a new hood fitted (so is away at the moment) and a knackered 2.2T (well, perfect material for Barry perhaps) resides in a lockup elsewhere:

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This ramp is a bit of a pain to setup under a low slung car, but is worth its weight in gold once in action. Here's the near side:

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and here's the offside:

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Yes I've got an oil leak or two to sort, but that's my winter project when the engine comes out for major surgery... and besides, it keeps everything rust free and easy to remove :P.

What else?

Well here is a freshly installed replacement bearing just pressed home having been in a freezer at minus 27c for the past two days (more oil on the trailing arm from the same oil leak):

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And here's the proof from the Sunday run to Chatsworth with PCGB that it was back on the road:

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All in all, not a bad weekend's work.

Just one point, don't forget to disconnect the speedo cable before dropping the engine or you'll be needing a new one like I now do :oops:.
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That ramp is fantastic ...what is it ??
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rear torsion bushes is very high on my 'to do' list also :)
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'Experienced' help is close at hand when you need it James.
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higs356 wrote:That ramp is fantastic ...what is it ??
It's Steve's secret weapon - packs flat to the floor (well within a few inches of it) and is fully hydraulic. It not only raises and lowers the car, but can tilt it forward or backwards. It is also on wheels that allow it to be moved about the garage when not under load and has a safety locking device to prevent it falling in the event of hydraulic failure.

You can just about make out the flexible hose in its sheathing that snakes back to a white control box at the back of the garage; the hydraulic pump is operated from a standard 13 amp socket and it's really very good indeed.

I think he picked it up second hand out of Exchange & Mart a few years ago... I wouldn't mind one of those for my garage. It made putting the engine and transmission back in the car (as well as everything else) an absolute doddle.

I want one!
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What does your wife think about your greasy trailing arms on her nice living room carpet???
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I think the state of those old bushes explains why the back end didn't feel "planted". That has to help :) Good work
Have you had the suspension set up now ?
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tanick wrote:Image
What does your wife think about your greasy trailing arms on her nice living room carpet???
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Nick - if that was my living room carpet I think I'd top myself. It's actually a piece of carpet at the back of the garage to keep our feet warm in winter when we are supping tea rather than doing any work.

Honest :wink:.
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impmad2000 wrote: Have you had the suspension set up now ?
Need to fit the fronts and then it'll be going for proper alignment. Also need one of the eccentric bolts (the camber one I think) for one side as it presently just has a normal bolt through it.

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It's actually a piece of carpet at the back of the garage to keep our feet warm in winter
Carpet int' garage? Bloody Luxury!
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Finest Axminster no less too.
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Post by tanick »

I just got my suspension apart too. If I'm not mistaken the blue ones in your pic are the trailing arm bushes. What's the advantage of these over standard Parsche ones?

Did you have to superglue the spring plate bushes on or do they move? I have just cleaned and POR-15'd my spring plates. They had Neatrix bushes on which are about 3 years old and look OK. I was a bit worried about squeaking with the neatrix on POR15 but thought I'd take the chance. I don't know whether to glue them on now though.
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Post by Ian Donkin »

Nick - indeed the bushes pictured are for the trailing arms. I have no direct comparison with the OE bushes, but the SuperPro ones are supposed to offer better suspension control at the same time as reducing NVH.

I'm sure a look at the SuperPro website could give you more info.

Regarding the spring plate bushes, these just push on and as with the others, they came with a special grease to lubricate and protect against squeaking.

I don't know how they materially differ from neatrix (such as the Weltmiesters), but once again I'm sure there's some blurb about them on the SuperPro website.

Good luck!
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That ramp!
I want one - can anyone identify it, please?
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Post by crayford »

I'm salivating over the ramp too... :pukeright:

Any more info on if would be appreciated here too
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