Value of Carrera 3.0

[pete917]

What are peoples views on the value of this 911 and what makes for a higher value compared to a lower value i.w., targa versus coupe. LHD versus RHD. 1976 versus 1977.

Many thanks

[Nick Moss]

I wouldn't put any difference in value on a 76 v 77.
I would value a Coupe at 50% more than a Targa.
LHD v RHD is probably the most difficult to answer at the moment, but the Germans seem to be very keen on IBs at the moment so probably 25% more for a LHD, possibly 50%.

Bert will be along soon

[pete917]

Thanks Nick

[Bertroex]

Bert will be along soon

I don't know what Nick Moss has in mind with the jerk icon but I hope to get some clarification!

What are peoples views on the value of this 911

It is still undervalued. Relatively rare. Relatively simple to maintain (k-jet vs MFI) in comparison to Carrera 2.7. There are quite a few sporto cars converted to manual boxes. It is the more affordable and similarly specced sister of the Carrera 2.7 so the next thing so to speak. Although investment wise I wouldn't discount the turbo 3.0 either, although you need to spend hard to get eventually a return. Still better than money in the bank if you ask me.

Higher value: low owners, original delivery spec (even if it means tartan inserts into sports seats which is now stating to become mega cool), 15 inch fuchs, original spoilers, no rot, maintenance history with OPC and Porsche specialist, used regularly, bit of patina but nice honest condition.

Lower value:
For example:
Rust in front suspension pan, both b pillars, kidneys, inner front wings, windscreen base, sunroof drain tubes. The spray job was terrible looked like a rattle can job. Somewhere along the line the sunroof had been welded in, but there are signs of rust breaking through at the base of the rear screen both sides. All the window trim was sc, door cards were later post 77 style, rev counter and oil pressure were sc
The engine had the engine number removed (someone had broken off the casting where the no is stamped). Lots of fresh underseal where some patches had been welded around torque tube, floorpan etc
Engine is sitting in the engine bay not connected as it was dropped for the welding

targa versus coupe.
Usual debate: in the UK for sure the targa makes a lot less but not 50% on the C3 yet, typically 15 to 20%. This is not because I have a targa but compared to the coupe vs targa debate on the 911SC and 3.2 carrera cars. The exception is the carrera 2.7: the coupe makes serious money, whereas the targa's will be bought for the engine, gearbox, suspension components and wheels.

On the content: Targa is a bit more rare and has a dedicated following who often big bucks as the targa was often better equipped than some of the "standard" basic german delivery coupes. The targa was a lot more expensive than the coupe in some markets when new.

RHD vs LHD

RHD: anything between 6500 to 24000 in UK, different in RHD markets such as Australia etc etc.
LHD: anything between 9500 to 40 000 euros last time I looked.

1976 versus 1977
No particular difference: LHD77 had brake servo, march 77ish factory started to use the alloy gearboxes, 77 comes with 6 &7 x 16 fuchs rather than the 7&8x15 fuchs unless customer specified, 77 has the rotary unlock button in the doorcards and locked front quarterlights for the targa.

Carlo who lives locally to you and who you have met before has quite a nice selection of C3's so you could always taste the difference yourself.

HTH,

Bert

[pete917]

Thanks Bert. I really appreciate the answer and very helpful.

I have been out in Carlo's Targa and seen his little brown Coupe. Both nice cars and very different personalities.

I guess if you can get a good one, sounds like it will be quite a good investment if you can hang on to it for a few years! I agree, better than the banks at the moment.

Thanks again.