Now sold - 1969 911T Assy project 3 owners

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Now sold - 1969 911T Assy project 3 owners

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Stop ! This is going to sound a bit strange but before I tell you a bit about the car , it’s important , no, vital , that I tell you about the owner / builder / restorer of it. Unfortunately, he , my friend Paul Martin is no longer with us - he died suddenly and unexpectedly , about 8 years ago - part way through his 2nd restoration of the car. I know Paul had dealings with quite a few on DDK , both on the purchase and supply side.
Paul was (among other things) a rally driver – mostly in a Mk1 Escort. At 24 years of age – he won the 1974 Ulster Rally Championship !! in OKT 719 G . In those days, the championship was composed of blind rallies (no pace notes) ... and Paul poo poo’d my rally driving attempts many years later , because we stooped to using pace notes !! He was (mostly) a self taught motor engineer / garage proprietor who for virtually all of his working life ran a business specialising in older Porsche 911’s. (See attached advert)
He upset Mr. Porsche , by calling his business Porsche Services Ireland , and using the Porsche logo , for many years (as per his attached note to me in 1987) , It was changed to 911 Services Ireland not long after that. He was very very particular – with very high standards – the attached article about one of his ex apprentices – puts this better than my words.
In about 1985 he decided that PCGB Region 27 actually needed to be revived and have a representative. Porsche Club Ireland did not exist – and the region 27 was “designed” to cover the entire country. Paul was the man behind getting this started up again – and the first event that had been held in Ireland for many years , was a BBQ at Nuts Corner Motorsport centre , where the star attraction was the ex Rothmans SCRS 911 (attached photo with Paul’s car) – then recently bought essentially by Agnews ... came along, and many of us were taken for high speed laps in it !!!

Paul made a new friend in Jan 1973 , Bert Gear came to work in N Ireland for about 3 or 4 years , Bert bought a 911S for about £1750 , and Paul bought a 911T for approx £950 (Paul’s car was bought from the McCartney bros. in Larne !) – both were 1969 models. This was in 1974 , and good fun was had by all (by all reports) . Bert went on to marry Lyn , and eventually founded Berlyn – selling Porsche parts to many of us over the approx 26 years he had the business, and Paul stayed in the “Garage “ business.
The car was apparently quite rough (surprising for a 5 or 6 year old vehicle) – it was originally White , registered AOI 50 , and registered to our local Porsche dealer -Issac Agnew , for the first 2+ years of it’s life , and had only one other owner before Paul. It was the subject of a restoration early in it’s life, and Paul changed the colour to Orange (red in Tax book) and essentially made it into a rally car replica. The original crankcase is still in the car, but over the years it changed guises many times - different fuel systems , different cams , different heads , etc etc. I think it was always and still is a 2 litre engine , but in it’s current set up (all rebuilt by Paul) runs a Bosch Mechanical injection set up (pump rebuilt by RS diesels ?) and is essentially S spec. A year or two before work stopped on it , Paul decided to do yet another full rebuild of the car , and change it’s colour to Irish Green. I went to see it after painting - engine and box were installed and the car was running like the proverbial swiss watch. BUT ..... Paul , true to form was not happy with the fit up of one of the rear opening windows. (It looked fine to my eye) ... but no , nothing would do except a local repair - to sort the offending fit. This needs repainting . (All other panels had probably been on and off and adjusted many times each prior to paint – not sure how that one slipped through ?).
Anyways , x weeks later he was gone , and the car has just sat there ever since !
It’s a “put it back together” project. The hard work – body , paintwork , engine , box , brakes have been done (I would assume brakes will need revisited after this time) , and there are boxes and boxes of bits everywhere. I spent quite a few hours with my home made check list , going through parts last week - some photos attached. Not a 100% check – but I saw enough to tell me that things are 98% complete. The only “major” item I did not see was ALL of the instruments – so assume there may be some items to source. On the plus side , when I went looking for things like door handles / headlights , and other things - I turned up multiple quantities – I think I saw 4 door handles for example ..... you get what’s there. I did not find / see the original carbs - assume they are not present , but may well be in a box. Things like seats had been re-covered , but other items like door pockets had not been refurbished – instruments I did find had been worked on. The only “complaint” I would have , is that the black “underseal” that Paul used, has hardened – become brittle , and is falling off in some places ... this would obviously need redone.
Not a simple one to price / value. There will be some big wins for the buyer , there will be some expenses too. I would be very surprised if the engine wasn’t up and running within a day or two. I know from my own restoring of a 1973 911E , that this assembly stage is the best bit (compared to the cutting / welding / grinding / painting part ).... and relatively quick , I was on the road a couple of months after painting vs two years for bodywork !
The asking price is £57,500 since you have to start somewhere - open to sensible offers , but it IS one you need to come see / talk about before doing so. Think hard about this one - it’s not the run of the mill car or “condition” – probably more suitable to the DIY restorer vs paying someone to do the job for you. It has been advertised for a short time on PCI , now onto DDK ... and that’s as far as I want to go.
I can offer a pick up and take you to view service , from any of our NI airports or ports ... and if you behave yourself , I’ll even drop you back again. If it’s too far to come for a view , never mind the £60 return flights that can be booked in advance ... then it’s probably not the car for you
Remember – I can’t ask Paul what cam shafts are in it , or what compression ratio it’s running , so don’t waste time asking me. Sensible questions and discussion I can handle ! Photos of Paul and car taken by me at PCGB concours event – Droitwich ? 1985. Reg is BIB 5566 (no I don’t think you’ll find it live on any system presently) and I could only find one MOT certificate !!

Cheers
Alan

I'm going to attempt to attach about 30+ photos to this - will do in several bites ... bear with me please
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Re: 1969 911T Assy project 3 owners N Ireland Car fr new £57

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Royal Enfield .. still in India
GL 1800 Tour DCT, for pleasure / Fantic 240 Professional - play
Rally 911 (1966) build parked for a while
Rally 928 (work started again - inc serious weight loss programe !)
.... and now another VW Up GTI owner.
Cortina
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Re: 1969 911T Assy project 3 owners N Ireland Car fr new £57

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Royal Enfield .. still in India
GL 1800 Tour DCT, for pleasure / Fantic 240 Professional - play
Rally 911 (1966) build parked for a while
Rally 928 (work started again - inc serious weight loss programe !)
.... and now another VW Up GTI owner.
Cortina
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Re: 1969 911T Assy project 3 owners N Ireland Car fr new £57

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Royal Enfield .. still in India
GL 1800 Tour DCT, for pleasure / Fantic 240 Professional - play
Rally 911 (1966) build parked for a while
Rally 928 (work started again - inc serious weight loss programe !)
.... and now another VW Up GTI owner.
Cortina
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Re: 1969 911T Assy project 3 owners N Ireland Car fr new £57

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Royal Enfield .. still in India
GL 1800 Tour DCT, for pleasure / Fantic 240 Professional - play
Rally 911 (1966) build parked for a while
Rally 928 (work started again - inc serious weight loss programe !)
.... and now another VW Up GTI owner.
Cortina
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Re: 1969 911T Assy project 3 owners N Ireland Car fr new £57

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Royal Enfield .. still in India
GL 1800 Tour DCT, for pleasure / Fantic 240 Professional - play
Rally 911 (1966) build parked for a while
Rally 928 (work started again - inc serious weight loss programe !)
.... and now another VW Up GTI owner.
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Re: 1969 911T Assy project 3 owners N Ireland Car fr new £57

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you will be glad to know that's all for now !
Royal Enfield .. still in India
GL 1800 Tour DCT, for pleasure / Fantic 240 Professional - play
Rally 911 (1966) build parked for a while
Rally 928 (work started again - inc serious weight loss programe !)
.... and now another VW Up GTI owner.
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Re: 1969 911T Assy project 3 owners N Ireland Car fr new £57

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Now sold - a note from the seller....

Above has now had a deposit placed by first viewer - he's a new member here and has "promised" to start a restoration thread to allow me (us) to keep tabs on the re-assembly of this car. I'm sure he'll need some help and advice as he goes along. Thanks everyone for all the interest ... pity there was only one of these available ! Alan
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