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£28,000 - is it worth it ?
I've never owned a 914 - what's this worth ????
3.2 - 914
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myatt1972
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Re: 3.2 - 914
I'd want better panel gaps for that money.
I bet its good fun though!
I bet its good fun though!
Keith...
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jackstowers
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Re: 3.2 - 914
More like £18-20k depending on how well the conversion was done IMO but agree it would be quite fun
David
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Re: 3.2 - 914
I like it a lot. Narrow body, great colour, big power - what's not to like!
Conversions aren't really cars to make money on - for the builder (definately, he will be losing his shirt at £28k) or in terms of trading a car with any certainty of what it will make. Generally, a converted 4 to 6 will only make top money on the grounds of someone that 'must have it', and actual market levels are very variable and difficult to guage. What I do know is;
- Mine cost a heap more than that to build - and this is fairly consistent with others!
- It's insurance value as a sum of the parts exceeds the price it is offered for
- It is damn fast - in straight lines and especially round corners. A really sorted 914 with big power (mine is 200hp so less than the car offered) is utterly awesome.
The only word of caution is to be sure what development has gone into the drivetrain. i haven't read the ad, but 210hp is broadly considered to be the limit of a 901 gearbox, and this delivered by a revvy low torque screamer - a high capacity / high torque motor has the potential to blow the gearbox to bits with sticky tyres like those shown. I am on the limits of sensibility with mine, given the workout my car gets on standing starts on soft tyres...
So, if you like it and it has the right suspension, brakes, and has been carefully thought out (oil circuits, wiring, ignitions, fuel etc etc) then buy knowing that you could not have built it for less, and you will love blowing cars away that think you are in a 70s Triumph!!
Always happy to show people around my car so you know what you are getting in to / should expect if it helps, though test drives are currently out due to a rumbling bottom end....
Hope this helps
Wayne
Conversions aren't really cars to make money on - for the builder (definately, he will be losing his shirt at £28k) or in terms of trading a car with any certainty of what it will make. Generally, a converted 4 to 6 will only make top money on the grounds of someone that 'must have it', and actual market levels are very variable and difficult to guage. What I do know is;
- Mine cost a heap more than that to build - and this is fairly consistent with others!
- It's insurance value as a sum of the parts exceeds the price it is offered for
- It is damn fast - in straight lines and especially round corners. A really sorted 914 with big power (mine is 200hp so less than the car offered) is utterly awesome.
The only word of caution is to be sure what development has gone into the drivetrain. i haven't read the ad, but 210hp is broadly considered to be the limit of a 901 gearbox, and this delivered by a revvy low torque screamer - a high capacity / high torque motor has the potential to blow the gearbox to bits with sticky tyres like those shown. I am on the limits of sensibility with mine, given the workout my car gets on standing starts on soft tyres...
So, if you like it and it has the right suspension, brakes, and has been carefully thought out (oil circuits, wiring, ignitions, fuel etc etc) then buy knowing that you could not have built it for less, and you will love blowing cars away that think you are in a 70s Triumph!!
Always happy to show people around my car so you know what you are getting in to / should expect if it helps, though test drives are currently out due to a rumbling bottom end....
Hope this helps
Wayne
93 964 C2
99 Boxster 2.5 > 2.7 hill climber
71 914/6 3.0 - gone
'You see Paul, hill climbing is like making love to a beautiful woman. You get your motor running, check your fluids, hang on tight and WHOA..30 seconds later it's all over!' Swiss Tony
99 Boxster 2.5 > 2.7 hill climber
71 914/6 3.0 - gone
'You see Paul, hill climbing is like making love to a beautiful woman. You get your motor running, check your fluids, hang on tight and WHOA..30 seconds later it's all over!' Swiss Tony
Re: 3.2 - 914
Like the colour... the bonnet doesn't even nearly fit though...
As above, the power will be too much for a 901 box, although it could have a 915 conversion - less common than the 901 though.
The bottom line with any conversion, is it's only as good as
1. The base car + resto work
2. The parts that are in it - e.g. a properly rebuilt 3.2 is a very different proposition from a 150k mile lump that's had a quick jetwash and painted tinware.
3. The guy(s) who built it.
So it needs a lot more info, and a good deal of looking at. I learnt that one the hard way. Don't do it jetlagged with a monster hangover ;o)
Other points I noticed in a not very thorough look at the pics
- the exhaust design is odd, and may be the reason why..
- it's sitting far too high at the back (for exhaust clearance?)
- why no pics of the engine bay, or interior pics, or anything other than the outside?
Strong money...
I can confirm that Wayne's car is well worth a look!
As above, the power will be too much for a 901 box, although it could have a 915 conversion - less common than the 901 though.
The bottom line with any conversion, is it's only as good as
1. The base car + resto work
2. The parts that are in it - e.g. a properly rebuilt 3.2 is a very different proposition from a 150k mile lump that's had a quick jetwash and painted tinware.
3. The guy(s) who built it.
So it needs a lot more info, and a good deal of looking at. I learnt that one the hard way. Don't do it jetlagged with a monster hangover ;o)
Other points I noticed in a not very thorough look at the pics
- the exhaust design is odd, and may be the reason why..
- it's sitting far too high at the back (for exhaust clearance?)
- why no pics of the engine bay, or interior pics, or anything other than the outside?
Strong money...
I can confirm that Wayne's car is well worth a look!
'77 Carrera 3.0 - SOLD
'72 914 3.0
'72 914 3.0
Re: 3.2 - 914
Wise words from Wayne and Mike et al... There's alot of work needed to make a proper conversion, especially one with a 3.2 and more than 200hp (as I am beginning to find out!!)
Agree with David, it's overpriced. For that kind of money I personally would buy a real 6 with meaningful upgrades...but then I guess it depends what you're going to use it for!
Lovely looking thing though...(apart from the bonnet fit!)
Agree with David, it's overpriced. For that kind of money I personally would buy a real 6 with meaningful upgrades...but then I guess it depends what you're going to use it for!
Lovely looking thing though...(apart from the bonnet fit!)
Re: 3.2 - 914
P.S. If a 914-6 conversion is worth £28k, you can have mine!
... I didn't pay half that for it, although it does need some sorting out.
... I didn't pay half that for it, although it does need some sorting out.
'77 Carrera 3.0 - SOLD
'72 914 3.0
'72 914 3.0
Re: 3.2 - 914
Here's the one you want.....roughly £14K (the white one, not the green)). I'd be very tempted myself!!
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=219319
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=219319
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See what they are doing in Germany (paste into Google Chrome and it'll translate the web page):
http://home.mobile.de/WESTSIDECARSGMBHC ... _157186585
Euro 90k which is steep, even from the garage, but doesn't surprise me either if you do these things properly.
http://home.mobile.de/WESTSIDECARSGMBHC ... _157186585
Euro 90k which is steep, even from the garage, but doesn't surprise me either if you do these things properly.
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There was also this 3.2 conversion car which sold last year at auction. I had a look at it. Was ok but not mint and went for over £30k
www.silverstoneauctions.com/porsche-914-6-gt
Chris
www.silverstoneauctions.com/porsche-914-6-gt
Chris
Re: 3.2 - 914
They both look ok to me, at a glance...ollieg wrote:Here's the one you want.....roughly £14K (the white one, not the green)). I'd be very tempted myself!!
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=219319
'77 Carrera 3.0 - SOLD
'72 914 3.0
'72 914 3.0
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Wow! I know where I'll sell mine, if I decide to (no plans to though).Biggles wrote:There was also this 3.2 conversion car which sold last year at auction. I had a look at it. Was ok but not mint and went for over £30k
http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/porsche-914-6-gt
Chris
Oh hang on... that might be a 'real' 914-6
"This car was produced for the USA market in California as a 914-6 in 1970 and then upgraded with a kit to 'GT' specification. "
'77 Carrera 3.0 - SOLD
'72 914 3.0
'72 914 3.0
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Yeah that white one is a real 6...the chassis number begins '914.....'MikeH wrote:Oh hang on... that might be a 'real' 914-6Biggles wrote:There was also this 3.2 conversion car which sold last year at auction. I had a look at it. Was ok but not mint and went for over £30k
http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/porsche-914-6-gt
Chris
'Good God' though, what's with those Germans!!!?? 90K Euros for that silver '73 conversion? What dumkopf is going to pay that?
Re: 3.2 - 914
Biggles wrote:See what they are doing in Germany (paste into Google Chrome and it'll translate the web page):
http://home.mobile.de/WESTSIDECARSGMBHC ... _157186585
Euro 90k which is steep, even from the garage, but doesn't surprise me either if you do these things properly.
Yikes! Maybe for a real factory GT, but I struggle to see how you could put enough work into a small simple car like a 914 to make it worth 90k. Diamond encrusted pedals?
'77 Carrera 3.0 - SOLD
'72 914 3.0
'72 914 3.0
Re: 3.2 - 914
Granted this is steep but it all depends what level you go to - even with a little 914. NOS parts or generic stuff from America etc ...
As an extreme example, look at this one using NOS parts. Not a real GT but they still want Euro 260k.
http://www.freisinger-motorsport.de/por ... e/152.html
Yes that Silverstone one was a 'real' 914/6 but it kind of wasn't as well given the 915 gearbox and 3.2 lump in the back. Sounded flippin' good though.
Mine will be 3.2 but going for the carb. option
As an extreme example, look at this one using NOS parts. Not a real GT but they still want Euro 260k.
http://www.freisinger-motorsport.de/por ... e/152.html
Yes that Silverstone one was a 'real' 914/6 but it kind of wasn't as well given the 915 gearbox and 3.2 lump in the back. Sounded flippin' good though.
Mine will be 3.2 but going for the carb. option