Back in beige
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Robind
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Bugger, thank god they are easy to get in/out, must be great to hear it running though 
1966 912 Slate Grey sunroof
1975 911 Blue Targa
2001 996 Blue Convertible
1981 Ferrari 308 GTB
1960 Mercedes 190SL
1983 Mercedes 500SL
1975 911 Blue Targa
2001 996 Blue Convertible
1981 Ferrari 308 GTB
1960 Mercedes 190SL
1983 Mercedes 500SL
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jamie
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11pm: went out to the garage and undid the engine from the transmission. It was a lot easier than anticipated - 35 minutes work to drop it out of the car.
I removed the clutch and then tried the flywheel gland nut. No dice. So about 00.30 I text my neighbour (a mechanic) to ask if he had an impact gun in his garage. He didn't, but we did get the nut off with a breaker bar and a piece of angle iron bolted across it. Actually two pieces, since the first one snapped in half. It was on pretty tight.
Turns out the oil seal is bent - I must have whacked it whilst installing it. What a prick. At least it was easy to find, and now I can go to bed without having to think about it anymore.
Hoping to get a good discount on a 60x80x10 seal in the Boxing Day sales!
I removed the clutch and then tried the flywheel gland nut. No dice. So about 00.30 I text my neighbour (a mechanic) to ask if he had an impact gun in his garage. He didn't, but we did get the nut off with a breaker bar and a piece of angle iron bolted across it. Actually two pieces, since the first one snapped in half. It was on pretty tight.
Turns out the oil seal is bent - I must have whacked it whilst installing it. What a prick. At least it was easy to find, and now I can go to bed without having to think about it anymore.
Hoping to get a good discount on a 60x80x10 seal in the Boxing Day sales!
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sladey
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Nice work - good to suss out the problem.
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
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anglophone1
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You have great neigbours - 0030 on boxing day? Mine would tell me to feck off!
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Clive
West Cork, Ireland
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1978 SC/1984 3.2 Outlaw -Jaffa 911
1973 914 - on Webers - historic rally car- Tango 914
1977 924 2.0 on Webers street legal race car - Martini 924
1975 911/Flachbau 930 clone- too cool for school!
West Cork, Ireland
RGruppe #814
1978 SC/1984 3.2 Outlaw -Jaffa 911
1973 914 - on Webers - historic rally car- Tango 914
1977 924 2.0 on Webers street legal race car - Martini 924
1975 911/Flachbau 930 clone- too cool for school!
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jamie
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Anyone have any suggestions where I might be able to find a 60x80x10 seal when the shops reopen on Tuesday?
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Nine One One
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Jamie,
I think it is specific to the 356 and 912, so you might have to wait until Roger Brays open up again, or whether a member on here has got one left over from a gasket engine rebuild kit, or just a spare lying around?
Ian
I think it is specific to the 356 and 912, so you might have to wait until Roger Brays open up again, or whether a member on here has got one left over from a gasket engine rebuild kit, or just a spare lying around?
Ian
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OK, here's the offending main seal:

And here's what happened, on Christmas morning.

This is I took my mind off it for the rest of the day...

I found a local car parts place that was open today. The seal is 60x80x10mm. They didn't have anything available, so I cross-referenced the size through an internet search and found a 60x80x8mm seal that fits a Daewoo Matiz, and a 60x80x12mm seal that fits somewhere in a Land Rover drivetrain. 60x80x10 seals are used on SAME Deutz tractors, but they're a bit of a rarity around the Berkshire suburbs.
So I have to wait till Tuesday. I F****** hate waiting. For anything!
So today I did a few other tasks on the car. I installed the brake switch, power to the clock, and routed a bowden cable for the accelerator. This involved making a bracket to fit in the front of the tunnel:

The offset in the bracket is to allow the clutch cable to route underneath. Tricky to explain. Basically you have a massive tunnel, and the accelerator and clutch cables are routed right up next to each other. This goes some way to solving that issue.
This is how the cable attaches to the accelerator pedal crank...
I used the socket joint from the original throttle cable, drilled through the side of it, tapped the hole and then folded the cable and pushed it inside. Then I wound two M4 screws into the holes on each side, tightened them as much as I could and chopped of the rest. After this, I heated the socket with a butane torch and filled the inside with solder. Hopefully that'll be enough to hold it. The stuff in the end is grease.

Whilst I was at it, I re-made the one on the engine, too. The first one was seated a bit funny due to not being able to get the rivet gun into the correct position. Anyway, it's much better now. I used stainless steel pop rivets.


And here's what happened, on Christmas morning.

This is I took my mind off it for the rest of the day...

I found a local car parts place that was open today. The seal is 60x80x10mm. They didn't have anything available, so I cross-referenced the size through an internet search and found a 60x80x8mm seal that fits a Daewoo Matiz, and a 60x80x12mm seal that fits somewhere in a Land Rover drivetrain. 60x80x10 seals are used on SAME Deutz tractors, but they're a bit of a rarity around the Berkshire suburbs.
So I have to wait till Tuesday. I F****** hate waiting. For anything!
So today I did a few other tasks on the car. I installed the brake switch, power to the clock, and routed a bowden cable for the accelerator. This involved making a bracket to fit in the front of the tunnel:

The offset in the bracket is to allow the clutch cable to route underneath. Tricky to explain. Basically you have a massive tunnel, and the accelerator and clutch cables are routed right up next to each other. This goes some way to solving that issue.
This is how the cable attaches to the accelerator pedal crank...
I used the socket joint from the original throttle cable, drilled through the side of it, tapped the hole and then folded the cable and pushed it inside. Then I wound two M4 screws into the holes on each side, tightened them as much as I could and chopped of the rest. After this, I heated the socket with a butane torch and filled the inside with solder. Hopefully that'll be enough to hold it. The stuff in the end is grease.

Whilst I was at it, I re-made the one on the engine, too. The first one was seated a bit funny due to not being able to get the rivet gun into the correct position. Anyway, it's much better now. I used stainless steel pop rivets.

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jamie
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Nice to see those images posted - the quality of my phone photography is really going from strength to strength.
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jamie
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Jonny Hart wrote:Hi Jamie. I'd like to see the fuse board as I'm thinking of doing ones for early cars. Is it the same as an early 911?
Post up a picture if you have a minute.

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jamie
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Another thing I did today was to finally cut a new passenger-side floorboard from the template that Gary71 made.
Turns out that not all Porsche passenger floorboards were created equal - this one doesn't fit my car!
Will investigate further when I can be arsed.
Turns out that not all Porsche passenger floorboards were created equal - this one doesn't fit my car!
Will investigate further when I can be arsed.
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Gary71
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Oops. I guess it maybe a LWB v SWB thing?
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Lightweight_911
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From memory there are several different versions including:
'65-'67 LHD Coupe
'65-'67 RHD Coupe
'68-on LHD Coupe
'68-on RHD Coupe
'69 LHD Targa
'69 RHD Targa
'70-on LHD Targa
'70-on RHD Targa
The right side (ie passenger's side on a LHD car) pedal board for a LHD '68-on Coupe version looks like this:


'65-'67 LHD Coupe
'65-'67 RHD Coupe
'68-on LHD Coupe
'68-on RHD Coupe
'69 LHD Targa
'69 RHD Targa
'70-on LHD Targa
'70-on RHD Targa
The right side (ie passenger's side on a LHD car) pedal board for a LHD '68-on Coupe version looks like this:


Andy
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
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jamie
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Thanks Andy.
The more I look at it, the more I think I may have scaled Gary's drawing on the X-axis only.
The shape is exactly right, only more squat.
If so, I am a f***ing idiot.
The more I look at it, the more I think I may have scaled Gary's drawing on the X-axis only.
The shape is exactly right, only more squat.
If so, I am a f***ing idiot.
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jamie
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This is making less and less sense.
Here's Gary's drawing, overlaid with your photo. Looks to me to be exactly the same, give or take a slight skew in the angle of your photograph.

Here's Gary's drawing, overlaid with your photo. Looks to me to be exactly the same, give or take a slight skew in the angle of your photograph.

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