1974 Carrera Coupe - RHD, UK car

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Re: 1974 Carrera Coupe - RHD, UK car

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Ferry Man wrote:The shell was delivered to Chesterton's and they set about pulling it apart.
Obviously you'll have realised the car is going to be rebuilt with plenty of fresh steel.
But the core of the car remains as built by the factory.

The bulkhead is original. And the dash. And the tunnel, the rear seat pans, & the back shelf.
It retains the original torsion bars and rear suspension crossmember.
But much of the rest will need to be replaced.
Where original sections of the car survive without rust we will re-use (where possible) and patch into fresh metal.

The front bonnet is the one it wore as it drove out of Zuffenhausen and the doors too are the originals.
The sunroof remains from 40 years back.
The ducktail is genuine Porsche but not from this vehicle.
The front wings came from another 1974 Carrera car.
Most of the remaining panels - whilst still genuine Porsche – have been manufactured later.
New sills, new floor, new roof, new rear quarters, etc.
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KS wrote:You realise that if this was a Cobra or a D-Type Jag, the bits you cut out would be built up into another car!
On one of my early trips up to see the bodywork being commenced I was greeted by this sight outside Chesterton's. :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol:

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Ferry Man wrote:I was greeted by this sight
It's drastic stuff. :(
But not quite as bad as it looks.
In fairness whilst Chestron's cut plenty out, these panels were not discarded just yet.
On many occassions this 'waste' was gone back over to harvest sections of original pressings or cut up to retrieve various fixings and parts.
Everything was retained until we were sure nothing was needed from the original parts.
Sometimes we had to go back through the bins two or three times to salvage important sections or possibly just reference for originality.
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:shock:

How do Chestertons plan to tackle the build?

Are they putting the new floor onto the Celette then lowering the remains of the bulkhead/tunnel/rear floor over the top?

It's difficult to visualise where you start! :)
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Gary71 wrote::shock:
How do Chestertons plan to tackle the build?
I was sat in a sports seat, holding a steering wheel in front of me (at what I felt was the correct position).
I then held still while they built the car around me. :roll: :wink:
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Ferry Man wrote:
Gary71 wrote::shock:
How do Chestertons plan to tackle the build?
I was sat in a sports seat, holding a steering wheel in front of me (at what I felt was the correct position).
I then held still while they built the car around me. :roll: :wink:
That's kind of how I was thinking it might have gone!

(Paul spotted recently at Chesterton...)

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Meant to be jet washing a load of stuff today, instead I have had 4 cups of tea and read this thread from start to finish - all I can say is fair play that you are seeing this through. It will be an amazing achievement. :)
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Guy wrote:Paul, What needs not to be overlooked is that the front valance is actually a 'spoiler' in its' own right with a lip shape at the bottom which reduces front lift by approximately 40% . This was also true of course for the valances fitted to the 2.4S and the 73RS. The front rubber lip was added only in conjunction with the whaletail which reduced lift far more than the duck. When the rubber lip is fitted with the ducktail it increases rear end lift due to a pitching moment about the front axle. I believe the duck without rubber lip is therefore the more balanced combination.
From experience I can tell you the ducktail with front rubber lip is quite a bit more stable at high speeds (100mph+) than without the front lip. That is why I added one to my 75 which has a ducktail (not original of course ;).

I think the addition on the lip was just an evolution of the development of the car, rather than a conscious choice not to have a front rubber lip. Given the whale tail gives even more rear downforce I can only imagine the effect of not having a front lip being more pronounced.

You could always buy two front valences, paint them at the same time, and swap them as desired ;)
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hi paul

glad to see all the progress.. mine has come to a bit of a standstill!!! anyway in cas eyou hadnt seen this, another very nice lime green..as a 75 of course sporting whale tail and front lip.


http://www.classicthrottleshop.com/car4.html


same place i bought mine from !


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billy964 wrote:glad to see all the progress.. mine has come to a bit of a standstill
Sorry to hear that, I can understand though. It's tough at times.
Still, keep upbeat and tackle it head on, you've done it before so you know you can sort it. Don't let slight difficulties beat you.
It just needs determination and you'll see it through. :)

billy964 wrote:have you seen this, another very nice lime green?
Thanks, great link, I'd not seen that. The car looks superb and makes me yearn for some paint on my shell.
Throttle Shop do have a knack for finding fine Carreras, don't they? 8)
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fairly sure theyve had that one for sale before. the orange one they had seems to have sold.

my resto is just one of many that needs attention from thomas.. he is flat out so basically have given up any chance of having the car this year :roll:

on the other hand looking at a 996rs today :-)

heading to FOS on the friday in bLimey and will be at Classic Silverstone too so hope to catch up with you at some point!
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billy964 wrote:heading to FOS on the friday in bLimey, hope to catch up with you
Sorry, Ferry Woman has booked us to be lounging around a hotel pool in the Med that week.
Shame to miss the FoS, especially as my boy had lined me some top flight VIP hospitality courtesy of a major sports car manufacturer... :(
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Ferry Man wrote:
billy964 wrote:heading to FOS on the friday in bLimey, hope to catch up with you
Sorry, Ferry Woman has booked us to be lounging around a hotel pool in the Med that week.
Shame to miss the FoS, especially as my boy had lined me some top flight VIP hospitality courtesy of a major sports car manufacturer... :(

blimey gutting on the ticket front! not cheap these days either :shock:

rs was not worth the inflated price.. aircooled rules still !
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Paul,

Not sure if you have seen these or have a copy, might be of interest.

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If only I could find a 1973 price list I could do a quick calculation and work out how much more my 74 Targa was than a 73 RS, apply that calculation to the current price of an RS and work out that value of my car now.
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