Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

For classic Porsche 911 content

Moderators: hot66, impmad2000, Barry, Viv_Surby, Derek, Mike Usiskin

Post Reply
210bhp
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 8237
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2004 12:28 am
Location: Scotland

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by 210bhp »

That's very generous of you to offer Mick.

One of our initial thoughts were to make this a DDK resoration car. Brendan had an exploratory meeting with Bootsy to explore how this might work. However, it was decided that there would be many pitfalls and complications, especially if a great number of DDKers were involved. We are acutely aware how long this restoration will take and the expense likely to be involved as no doubt extra problems would crop up along the way.

So, our number one thought was put to bed..........

Regards
Mike
_____________________________
73 RS (Sold)
67 S
Mint T (Sold)
996 Turbo (Sold)
73 2.4E (home after 25 years) and Sold again :-(
73T targa (signal yellow project)
1953 Vauxhall Velox
914/6
1963 356B
https://www.mybespokeroom.com/
squirdan
DDK rules my life!
Posts: 1381
Joined: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:30 pm
Location: london

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by squirdan »

why not try and get the Porsche Classic factory resto guys involved and do a UK version of the car they restored in the US in conjunction with the porsche owners club over there... ie like a case study, in the magazines and on the web
Megane R26R
Discovery Sport
Defender 110
BMW R9T
Trek Superfly
but sadly no Porsches any more
210bhp
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 8237
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2004 12:28 am
Location: Scotland

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by 210bhp »

Brendan spoke to the Classic Porsche workshop manager at CLM on their stand and we have emailed him several times since. We have had NO reply. Not even a no thank you it's not our bag.

We had hoped the factory shop would be interested. We have banged our heads against the wall on this one and it was one of our main hopes............ This car MUST be saved.


Our second option was put to bed............

Regards
Mike
_____________________________
73 RS (Sold)
67 S
Mint T (Sold)
996 Turbo (Sold)
73 2.4E (home after 25 years) and Sold again :-(
73T targa (signal yellow project)
1953 Vauxhall Velox
914/6
1963 356B
https://www.mybespokeroom.com/
Rostrenner
DDK addict
Posts: 101
Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:17 pm
Location: Munich, Germany

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by Rostrenner »

Mike,

What a shame that the guys at Porsche Classic seem to be so uninterested. Again, thanks alot for keeping us updated on this amazing story.
Hopefully you will figure out a way to bring this cracker back to its former glory soon. :)

Regards
Jan
'72 2.4T Viper Green -> Video | '73 2.4T Signal Yellow (project)
964RS
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 6556
Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:53 pm
Location: Midlands
Contact:

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by 964RS »

You two seem to be going to bed a lot :lol:
----------------------------------------------------
Jason
https://www.SweepingHand.co.uk
Rolex & Omega Watch Purchases & Sales

Image
User avatar
KS
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 15726
Joined: Fri May 07, 2004 3:12 pm
Location: Cornwall

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by KS »

I think the problem (if you can call it such) with Porsche Classic is that they must get so many similar requests. I know Jochen is buried with museum work and developing 'new' products to add to the range. The US resto was seen as a way to publicise this new branch of the company – it's job was done in that respect as we all now know about PC.

A communal DDK project would be a nightmare – it would only take one disgruntled contributor to bring it to its knees. Also, while there may be some members for whom £100 is nothing, right now I suspect there are many more for whom £100 is quite a lot to give away.

I hope the car does get restored – it does indeed deserve it. Sometimes, though, an amazing discovery can prove to be too much to take on (don't ask me how I know).
Keith Seume
Follow on Instagram @orange914
My YouTube channel
User avatar
yoda
I need to get out more!
Posts: 3280
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:01 am
Location: London

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by yoda »

I've read this thread with interest from the start and it is indeed a great story.

I don't quite understand some of the issues with the restoration though so would be grateful if someone could enlighten me:

1. Why would this be significantly more expensive than a "normal" good quality restoration assuming the car is complete? I appreciate preservation sometimes takes more time than just replacing things and while no restoration is cheap, is there any reason why this would be particularly expensive?

2. There was a comment made about what you would do with it after the resto? Is there any reason you wouldn't drive it and take it to events etc? It is a very interesting car that people would appreciate and I am sure would have sufficient value to make the restoration costs worthwhile?

There is the obvious issue of finding the money for the resto in the first place, which I appreciate can be significant.

Thanks
The force is strong in this one ......
User avatar
Bootsy
Site admin and the Boss
Posts: 25574
Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:09 pm
Location: Norwich
Contact:

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by Bootsy »

KS wrote: A communal DDK project would be a nightmare – it would only take one disgruntled contributor to bring it to its knees. Also, while there may be some members for whom £100 is nothing, right now I suspect there are many more for whom £100 is quite a lot to give away.
Agreed, you'd have to cover everything legally, create shares of ownership etc. to make it watertight and thats' not really the DDK way - a casual agreement amongst interested parties could prove a nightmare!

Looking forward to the next installment
1972 911T | 1994 993 Carrera | 1999 986 Boxster |

Vintage Heuer, Omega, Zenith and other vintage watches - http://www.heuerheritage.co.uk
User avatar
Nige
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 6680
Joined: Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:11 pm
Location: Denby, Derbyshire

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by Nige »

Just "spitballing" here (heard that in a film last night so thought I'd use it in this context:

One word "RAFFLE"
Making some BIG assumptions here:
Resto: £40k
You two's purchase cost plus a bit of profit, time and effort, etc: £40 ;)
Bung in some for 10k in 1yr: £1k

Sell 100 tickets at £420 or sell 400 at £120 winner takes car at some big fancy celeb packed gala draw (I'm seeing TV cameras, Biggins, Carolgees, Edmunds, you know proper A listers), resto is going to take a couple of years so you've got plenty of time to organise and sell the tickets.

Boom, sorted! Some pitch eh?
User avatar
Bootsy
Site admin and the Boss
Posts: 25574
Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:09 pm
Location: Norwich
Contact:

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by Bootsy »

Nige wrote:Just "spitballing" here

Boom, sorted! Some pitch eh?
Call that a pitch.....

I'm out

Image
1972 911T | 1994 993 Carrera | 1999 986 Boxster |

Vintage Heuer, Omega, Zenith and other vintage watches - http://www.heuerheritage.co.uk
Lightweight_911
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 17941
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:48 pm
Location: Worcs/W Mids border

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by Lightweight_911 »

Nige wrote:Just "spitballing" here (heard that in a film last night so thought I'd use it in this context:

Making some BIG assumptions here:

Resto: £40k

- you'd need to double that estimate at least ...
Andy

“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
User avatar
Nige
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 6680
Joined: Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:11 pm
Location: Denby, Derbyshire

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by Nige »

Just a concept guys, just toss it away if you think it doesn't have legs to run. But with some creative thinking, a Del Trotter attitude and some Braveheart courage I think it could work, though somebody might be left holding the baby.
User avatar
Bootsy
Site admin and the Boss
Posts: 25574
Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:09 pm
Location: Norwich
Contact:

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by Bootsy »

Nige wrote:somebody might be left holding the baby.
Too right, however if we all go about drinking Kool-Aid when the rubber meets the road the scenery only changes for the lead dog
1972 911T | 1994 993 Carrera | 1999 986 Boxster |

Vintage Heuer, Omega, Zenith and other vintage watches - http://www.heuerheritage.co.uk
neilbardsley
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 8614
Joined: Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:31 pm

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by neilbardsley »

Lightweight_911 wrote:
Nige wrote:Just "spitballing" here (heard that in a film last night so thought I'd use it in this context:

Making some BIG assumptions here:

Resto: £40k

- you'd need to double that estimate at least ...
Just come to this thread. Very cool. I dare not challenage Andy's knowledge but there are people restoring cars for less on here. I don't see how the cost go up for an 0001 car?

I will probably be shot for this but change it back to a lhd and offer in one of those US auctions if don't intend you hold it.
“A REMINDER. I would be grateful if those members who have borrowed bits from me in emergencies (e.g starter motor, oil cooler, etc) would return them and/or contact me”. – Chris Turner RIP
Lightweight_911
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 17941
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:48 pm
Location: Worcs/W Mids border

Re: Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

Post by Lightweight_911 »

neilbardsley wrote: I dare not challenage Andy's knowledge ...

It's only my opinion - always like to be 'challenged' ... :wink:
Andy

“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
Post Reply