Apologies if this has been discussed before, but I am planning to do some sort of project with my 3.2, hopefully starting after Christmas. I've always thought about an ST (and this is still my fave idea), BUT - I've always liked the CS, and I'm assuming that would be a much simpler conversion, plus I'd end up with something I could have a bit of track fun with. I'm guessing it would be a lot cheaper too!
From what I know there are no mechanical differences between the two models - was it just suspension/ exhaust changes (and of course the weight loss!)
Can anyone recommend someone who has experience at setting the 3.2 up to be a car that can be used for daily driving, but also good track fun? If I go the 'ST' route then I know there are a couple of very good specialists who I would go to, but I'm not so sure about a CS/ track specialist?
TIA
Simon Moore
1958 356A
1978 Aston Martin V8
1988 Jaguar XJS 3.6 manual
1959 Lambretta Li125
From what I understand there where engine difference, fully blue printed, sodium filled valves and a higher redline. The CS also had alot of lightness added.
I actually ordered one back in October 1987 from Maltin Porsche in Henley, Oxfordshire, but I didn't take delivery. The invoice price was £34,389.98
I have the original spec sheet which was just a photo-copied sheet from Porsche GB.
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911 Carrera Coupe in 'Club Sport Version' (M637)
Base Model: 911 Carrera Coupe
Exterior colours: Grand Prix White / red decals / red wheel centres
Interiors: all standard interiors, (leather front and rear seats) there is a lot of stuff tipexed out here, so the available interior is a bit unclear.
Order codes: M637 - club sport version
+ M541 - radio preparation (2 speakers & antenna amp)
+ P42 - Group number comprising:
Shortened gear lever (M243)
Sports shock absorbers (M474)
Front and rear spoilers (M473)
Rear storage box in place of seats (M419)
6 and 7J x 16 forged alloy wheels (M395)
All other M-options can be ordered with the exception of the following:
1. rear seats
2. back & sidewall trim
3. sound insulation(except for engine comp and roof section)
4. PVC undercoating
5. Additional blower with cover and control knob
6. Automatic heating control
7. lockable front hood
8. sunvisor, passenger side
9. lid of storage compartment in doors
10. activated carbon container
11. coat hook
12. Carrera lettering
Deviating from standard version
1. Manual window levers
2. front spoiler w/out opening for fog lights
3. rear section covered with carpeting
4. sidewalls, front, covering with carpet
5. new combination seats (base cushion and sports seat backrest) w/out electrical height adj, in cloth or cloth/leatherette only
6. manual heating levers behind handbrake lever on right
7. separate chassis number as of 14th digit (number starting with 5001)
Chassis
Deviating from std Carrera Sport
1. w/out lockable wheel nuts
2. Alu spare wheel
3. engine mount, same as 911 Carrera Cab.
Engine:
Deviating from std version
1. intake valves (hollow valves)
2. Electronic control unit for 6840 RPM mac
3. Crankcae and cylinder heads with 'SP' marking
Electrical system
deletion of
1. fog lights, front
2. engine and luggage comp lights
3. radio prep (except cables)
Deviating fron standard version:
1. rev counter with modified 'red line' section
2. simpilfied cable harness
3. starter cable with reduced diameter
Homologation
1. registered as 2 seater
2. unladen weight 1,160 Kg
A CS rep sounds like a great idea. If you go for an exact replica it could end up being quite costly for no particular gain. But if you go for the spirit of a CS i.e reduced weight, slightly more track focused suspension and mild engine tuning it shouldn't cost the earth and be technically as good if not better than an actual CS. There are plenty of such beasts over on the IB forum.
911SMonster - I agree. I'd probably be better off just waiting for a CS, and it would be cheaper. I'm more looking for the spirit of a CS, something with some weight taken out of it (normally one of the cheapest ways to gain power!) and then tweaks to suspension/ set-up.
Won't be doing it until next year now anyway due to funds going in to house and the 356..!
Simon Moore
1958 356A
1978 Aston Martin V8
1988 Jaguar XJS 3.6 manual
1959 Lambretta Li125
sjm wrote:911SMonster - I agree. I'd probably be better off just waiting for a CS, and it would be cheaper. I'm more looking for the spirit of a CS, something with some weight taken out of it (normally one of the cheapest ways to gain power!) and then tweaks to suspension/ set-up.
Won't be doing it until next year now anyway due to funds going in to house and the 356..!
I can assure you a CS would NOT be a cheaper option. I was looking at buying one recently and they're not the bargains they used to be. There are a couple of dogs going for £30K and a really nice one at £38,500. You could buy this slightly tweaked C3.2 for £12K. Even if you then spent another £15K+ on it, you'd be still better off than a real CS.
Sorry - I was thinking as in my car cost £18,500 plus reckoning on a good £15k to do the job properly - say mid £30's all done, but car would only be worth about £18k once the job was done, as no real way of getting the money back. So would be better off buying a real CS which would at least hold the money...
TBH, trouble with getting a good CS is that I'd be so twitchy about taking it on track it would spoil the fun. Even daily driving might seem a shame. Whereas my 3.2 can be used as my daily driver without too much to worry about.
Simon Moore
1958 356A
1978 Aston Martin V8
1988 Jaguar XJS 3.6 manual
1959 Lambretta Li125
To be fair if you budgeted mid £30Ks for your CS style 3.2, you would be able to create something that would completely destroy a real CS, which although a very nice car is not exactly a million miles away from a stock 3.2
take some interior trim out. (free) - maybe go fr gass bumpers.
remap it (+ power) update your suspension and brakes.
say £3k tops - add some stickers and you have a 3.2 CS spec car that you can enjoy anywhere and you wont have blown the bank
