USA 1970 911T - the Tangerine Dream
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Re: USA 1970 911T - the Tangerine Dream
I'm going with RAL Yellow Orange for now - it seems to be the best match for Porsche Signal Orange
It's a much better match than appears in the photo because inside the light bowl is in the shade, and the old silver is still coming through a little through the orange on the bonnet. Also, the bonnet has a matt finish which is reflecting the blue sky.
It's a much better match than appears in the photo because inside the light bowl is in the shade, and the old silver is still coming through a little through the orange on the bonnet. Also, the bonnet has a matt finish which is reflecting the blue sky.
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
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1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
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Re: USA 1970 911T - the Tangerine Dream
Local newspapers DO have a use other than lighting the wood burner:
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Re: USA 1970 911T - the Tangerine Dream
We have orange... I siezed the opportunity while the weather is hot. Also, next door had gone out in the car they park nearest to our garden!!
That was definitely a learning experience. I've learnt over the years that the skill in a job this is not so much in the painting itself, rather in knowing how much thinners to mix into your paint, how to clean and set up your spray gun, what pressure to set your compressor, and what are the causes of common problems that may occur and how to rectify them. I now have an orange car, orange hands, orange workbench, orange tools, and an orange bush.
The car looks... let's just say better than it did before... if I'm being generous. But it is at least orange.
That was definitely a learning experience. I've learnt over the years that the skill in a job this is not so much in the painting itself, rather in knowing how much thinners to mix into your paint, how to clean and set up your spray gun, what pressure to set your compressor, and what are the causes of common problems that may occur and how to rectify them. I now have an orange car, orange hands, orange workbench, orange tools, and an orange bush.
The car looks... let's just say better than it did before... if I'm being generous. But it is at least orange.
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Re: USA 1970 911T - the Tangerine Dream
I have to say... the picture really does not convey what a bad job I've done of it.
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Re: USA 1970 911T - the Tangerine Dream
Now to the manual... after a few hours of head scratching and several broken light fixing screws, I'm no nearer to working out how the bumpers come off.
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Re: USA 1970 911T - the Tangerine Dream
It'll be a shame to lose the original brake fluid cap. None of the replacement ones available quite match this one:
But I can't keep it like that.
But I can't keep it like that.
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Re: USA 1970 911T - the Tangerine Dream
Way to go!
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72T 2.5... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56183
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Removing the bumpers
Removing the front bumpers - or should I say - that familiar feeling of an inaccessible captive nut rotating within its cage. I finally got it by compressing the cage with a lever applied from within the wheel arch.
Then on the rear bumpers, a bolt where you can only turn one twelfth of a turn before replacing one's spanner - I think he had a sense of humour, whoever specified a lock nut and a bolt an inch longer than it needs to be:
I was proud of my determination today... but despite my determination to get the bumpers off this weekend it was finally this allen bolt that beat me:
A one foot bar on the first one cracked it, but pushing this one to the limit of the allen key's strength brought the bar against the engine. Like most jobs on this car, it looks like this allen bolt could be an engine out job. Maybe an impact driver and a hex sockets are the order of the day - neither of which I currently possess so I go to bed defeated. I think this allen bolt is the final straw that means the car won't go to Lichfield cars in the park next weekend. Which is a shame because i was hoping to get of the Porsche Club of GB officials to sign off on a valuation for its insurance.
Then on the rear bumpers, a bolt where you can only turn one twelfth of a turn before replacing one's spanner - I think he had a sense of humour, whoever specified a lock nut and a bolt an inch longer than it needs to be:
I was proud of my determination today... but despite my determination to get the bumpers off this weekend it was finally this allen bolt that beat me:
A one foot bar on the first one cracked it, but pushing this one to the limit of the allen key's strength brought the bar against the engine. Like most jobs on this car, it looks like this allen bolt could be an engine out job. Maybe an impact driver and a hex sockets are the order of the day - neither of which I currently possess so I go to bed defeated. I think this allen bolt is the final straw that means the car won't go to Lichfield cars in the park next weekend. Which is a shame because i was hoping to get of the Porsche Club of GB officials to sign off on a valuation for its insurance.
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Re: USA 1970 911T - the Tangerine Dream
Do accelerator linkage ball joints take a locking pin? About to replace one of mine which comes loose from time to time and I see it has two pin holes into which one might conceivably insert a locking pin - none included.
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1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Re: USA 1970 911T - the Tangerine Dream
Yes you can fit a clip which I think is 8mm ball. Here is a link, but not in stock at present. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ball-Socket- ... 3b5433bc94
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I knew it - and you're right it's M5 and I can't find them anywhere. So I've gone for a selection of R-clips: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253550222731
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Superior weapons technology
With these half inch drive allen bits nothing can defeat me
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Non-standard front bumper bolts ?
The car has the slightly later fibreglass front bumper which I believe was an option on the T but was most likely added to this one after it was new. It has the spoiler lip on the bottom which was standard on S models and became the stock shape later on if I'm not mistaken. The brackets are a little bent from a few low-speed/car park incidents so I'll straighten those out and re-fix.
The bolts behind each overrider are one long and one short - one fixing into the bumper bracket and the other into the overrider, with one captive nut in the overrider going unused. I doubt this is the standard fixing - if anyone can advise, please do.
You can see some WD-40 on the trim bolts, but the coach part of the coach bolt has failed and is rotating in the alloy trim. It'd be preferable to retain the coach bolt arrangement for originality but I've bought flanged, dome-headed stainless M4 allen bolts to replace, knowing it's a pain in the ass getting the coach bolts out when they fail. Feel free to suggest a better solution if you have one. For now, it's back to work with the mole grips.
The bolts behind each overrider are one long and one short - one fixing into the bumper bracket and the other into the overrider, with one captive nut in the overrider going unused. I doubt this is the standard fixing - if anyone can advise, please do.
You can see some WD-40 on the trim bolts, but the coach part of the coach bolt has failed and is rotating in the alloy trim. It'd be preferable to retain the coach bolt arrangement for originality but I've bought flanged, dome-headed stainless M4 allen bolts to replace, knowing it's a pain in the ass getting the coach bolts out when they fail. Feel free to suggest a better solution if you have one. For now, it's back to work with the mole grips.
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Re: USA 1970 911T - the Tangerine Dream
I wasn't sure how much paint would be needed but £120 covered the car. 2.5l of cellulose from Advanced Paints and 5l of thinners. I have about 1l of paint and 2.5l of cellulose left to do the bumpers. I've only painted the outside, none of the cabin, engine bay, nor the door reveals.Nige wrote:Orange emulsion might be cheaper!
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
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Re: USA 1970 911T - the Tangerine Dream
There's that supposedly captive nut which caused me so much trouble. I'll crimp the cage and probably tack a weld on it.
1970 911T, Signal orange (Restoration thread)
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.
1988 3.2 Carrera backdate, Black
2001 996 Turbo, Lapis blue (am I allowed to put that here?)
I'm looking for a pre-impact bumper 911S or other high-revving 911 to restore - please let me know if you see one.