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Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:29 am
by Lightweight_911
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Firstly let me apologise for starting yet another non-Porsche thread but, in my defence, it might bring a few people 'out of the woodwork' &, in turn, stimulate them to post on their own Porsche experiences/projects.

Also, this thread is likely to be rather 'wordy' with a sparsity of pictures ...


Unlike most of the suggestions offered in Sam's recent thread entitled “Getting a car that isn't a 911”, my criteria these days for an alternative 'fun' car tend to limit the search to '60's/'70's makes/models which have:

- a max weight of 1000 Kg

- an engine of under 2 litres (& preferably no more than 1.5 litres)

- an advanced spec for the era

- a recognised Factory competition history

- & be in standard Factory spec or featuring only 'period'/reversible mods


They would also need to be LHD, ideally built in (relatively) small numbers, be in excellent condition requiring no obvious foreseeable expenditure – &, possibly most important of all, must be a make/model the values of which aren't already prohibitively expensive …

In addition, as I have already owned many 'classic' cars in the past, I would prefer to get a model that I haven't had before ...

The only British car in this category that appeals is a Climax-engined Elite but prices have risen to a level that rules them out for me - & I have no interest in American cars - so what contenders are/were there from european manufacturers ?

Alfa – I've already owned most of those models which interest me that fulfill the criteria

Citroen – made some great cars that have always appealed but nothing that meets the criteria

Nothing from BMW, Fiat or Mercedes particularly interests me

- so that really only left Lancia …

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Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:44 am
by hot66
curious , why ideally less than 1.5 lt .. or is that purposely to push you towards a very specific car ?

Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:46 am
by jonno1
This has been for sale for ages.

Could be plucked for under £30k I am sure.

Compared to an Alfa 1300GTA.....bargain.

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1109530

I havd had 4 Fulvias, including a Fanalone.

This floats my boat:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1219547

But £40k....I sold my Fanalone for less than that.

Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:50 am
by stretch
I have always had a want for an Opel GT myself Andy. Engine needs waking up though. Nice shape, relatively cheap with plenty of parts available. https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 7-216-2125

Failing that i quite like the Alfa Alfetta GTV. Prefer the chrome window version, pre 77.
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 6-216-7674

My next project, G wagon van weighs about 3 times as much as these two...! :)

Keep safe.
Dave

Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:05 am
by Lightweight_911
hot66 wrote:curious , why ideally less than 1.5 lt .. or is that purposely to push you towards a very specific car ?

Mainly because I've always had a preference for relatively light cars with 'smallish' engines James - the 'below 1.5 litres' is an arbitrary figure - not essential but a smallish engine was a definite requirement ...

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Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:10 am
by Lightweight_911
jonno1 wrote:This has been for sale for ages.

Could be plucked for under £30k I am sure

Compared to an Alfa 1300GTA.....bargain.

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1109530

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It's RHD - & not all as it would seem ...
jonno1 wrote:I sold my Fanalone for less than that.
I remember - unfortunately it had sold by the time I saw the advert ...

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Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:11 am
by Lightweight_911
stretch wrote:I have always had a want for an Opel GT myself Andy. Engine needs waking up though. Nice shape, relatively cheap with plenty of parts available. https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 7-216-2125
Dave

Not really my thing I'm afraid Dave ...

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Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:13 am
by jonno1
Lightweight_911 wrote:
jonno1 wrote:This has been for sale for ages.

Could be plucked for under £30k I am sure

Compared to an Alfa 1300GTA.....bargain.

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1109530

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It's RHD - & not all as it would seem ...
jonno1 wrote:I sold my Fanalone for less than that.
I remember - unfortunately it had sold by the time I saw the advert ...

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Ah :(

Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:35 am
by one-two
The money-no-object answer is surely De Tomaso Vallelunga. Back in the real world, Matra Djet?

Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:51 am
by Sam
Citroen – made some great cars that have always appealed but nothing that meets the criteria
Ive got one from the 80s: The AX.

The lightest closed car per square inch on the road ever, ever. Apparently.

Full of wonderful weight saving details and brilliant thought.

The OG Sport was a c. 750kg, 95bhp 1.3 on twin carbs, limited production run. I expect they probably got raced somehow.

Or just get a BX 4TC. Then you’d be my hero.

Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:11 am
by Ian Comerford
Renault 8?

Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:11 am
by Lightweight_911
one-two wrote:The money-no-object answer is surely De Tomaso Vallelunga. Back in the real world, Matra Djet?
A Vallelunga would be perfect Robert - I remember lusting after one that was advertised many years ago for £25k (those were the days !!) - but sadly, as with many others, those days are long gone :(

Matra D'jet - interesting suggestion ...

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Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:14 am
by Lightweight_911
Ian Comerford wrote:Renault 8?
I've had a few previously - including an R8 Gordini that I restored

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Sorry Sam - nothing from the '80's is in contention ...

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Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:18 am
by 210bhp
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Regards
Mike

Re: Deciding factors ...

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:42 am
by Lightweight_911
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Saabs don't do it for me I'm afraid Mike ...

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