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the madness has returned?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:16 am
by redrobin911
I've just seen that this 911 GT2 made £1,848,000 at auction - sturggling to work out how it's worth anything like this - anybody got a answer other than "its market value"?
http://rmsothebys.com/lf16/london/lots/ ... t2/1082305
Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:17 am
by Bootsy
Don't tell Vic
Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:29 am
by KS
Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:06 am
by Slope330
sorry Bootsy, can't pay subs ,just used the money for years supply of kleenex`!
Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:12 pm
by john ruston
Think madness has moved dates
The crazy prices were 80's 90's stuff
The 70's cars were sold at about the expected rate. 460 k for RST
What do these people do with these newer cars?Baffles me.
The awful Pre A Speedster for restoration made 235 K .
It will be total rebuild with lots of new parts required.
Didn't get it.At least the restoration merchants will charge 150 k plus to sort it.
No wonder April had a smile on his face!
Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:21 am
by 964RS
Looks like one billionaire American bought most of them up. Mint one owner, original paint, stupid low mileage cars for the portfolio.
Money is not a factor in purchasing them. It was specific cars that were 'wanted'. Petty cash....
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Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:11 pm
by 911MRP
At Goodwood Revival Saturday: Porsche 550RS Spyder sold for nearly £4.6 million
Sold for £4,593,500 inc. premium which is said to be a world record for the model. Further info in links below for those interested in details:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/classic ... r--millio/
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23595/l ... sults&m8=8
http://www.bonhams.com/press_release/22384/
Being unmolested, well preserved example seemed to be factors in this case. Doubt anyone will do a nut and bolt bare metal restoration and destroy the patina/originality on this example, hopefully....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19349921
Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:33 pm
by hot66
To some, that's not a massive amount .. And where are you going to get another unrestored 550 ? Arguably better value than the 993 gt2 ?
Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:37 pm
by 911MRP
Some datapoints courtesy of HAGI regarding marketplace for people who like numbers and so forth (presumably including the Monterey and other summer events)
"The HAGI P Index is measuring the rare Porsche automobile market: Percent change +1.13 this month; ytd - 1.51 percent ytd
HAGI P inception values £100 on 31.12.2008, index for Aug 2016 is 328.04.
Exceptional collector's cars continue to achieve fair market prices across all marques and models. Furthermore road cars produced in higher volumes have been subject to very selective buying only while we observed significant price penalties for incomplete or compromised examples."
Source
http://www.historicautogroup.com
Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:36 am
by john ruston
What does that last post mean?
As soon as people mention investment and yield run the other way.
Cars should be bought as toys and people who consider them investment are crazy.
Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:00 am
by Lightweight_911
Well said John !
Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:05 pm
by sladey
john ruston wrote:What does that last post mean?
As soon as people mention investment and yield run the other way.
Cars should be bought as toys and people who consider them investment are crazy.
+1
Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:18 pm
by Bootsy
What Shandy said
Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:48 pm
by markm
I remember not too long ago circa 2012 being offered a 993 GT2 for £300k, how values have risen. Incredible
Re: the madness has returned?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:27 pm
by 964RS
markm wrote:I remember not too long ago circa 2012 being offered a 993 GT2 for £300k, how values have risen. Incredible
But not all GT2's are worth 1.8m Mark. Just this one was....most would be half that at BEST. So £300k-700k is probably about right and in line with everything else similar