Amazing barn find and a journey of discovery

210bhp · Post by **210bhp** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:22 am

That Gary is a detective!

John, any further thoughts? Mike thinks 68 door handles, Bruce thinks 69 front wings, Sam thinks factory prototype ducktail, Andy is sure its another barn find S in Scotland. How would so many rare RHD S models find their way to Scotland? It's bizarre!

Regards
Mike

Sam · Post by **Sam** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:46 am

Stop teasing. That pic doesn't help at all.

Unless the little round chrome thing ahead of the window winder is something special ???

69 Ss were on 15x6s weren't they? And Es were 14x5.5?

Those front seats look like they might be a whole bag of awesome.

pmjt · Post by **pmjt** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:53 am

210bhp wrote:That Gary is a detective!

John, any further thoughts? Mike thinks 68 door handles, Bruce thinks 69 front wings

Ahem?

I was first with the '68 door handles and '69 quarter lights

I have seen '68 door handles on very early '69 119xxxxx cars that were manufactured around the model year refresh / august / september time. (my old 68MY L had '67 door handles where she was made in July / August '67).

The door card basket weave is a give away - 1969. Matches the dash basket weave (pattern, not colour

)

I'm going with 1969 E but registered in 1968.

But what's been used to cover the seats? Elmo?

210bhp · Post by **210bhp** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:02 pm

Nice thinking Philip.

The dash top does not have the separate speaker grill. It has holes punched in the top of the vinyl covering in a diamond pattern. Does that help?

964RS · Post by **964RS** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:27 pm

I'm going for 69S model but 68 build.

Nice find, looks like its going to need quite a bit of buffing though!

210bhp · Post by **210bhp** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:24 pm

Yeh, that chrome thing, what the devil is it?

You been reading up Jason?

Anyway, back to the story.

Where's the engine? I asked. 'In the shed' came the rely.
And the rest of the interior? Hoping the original front seats might be somewhere. 'Oh, that's in the pig sty' came the reply.
We went to the pig sty and found the bonnet (no badge) and the original red front seats under a tarpaulin. The seats looked to have a velour type material on them but they were complete but very musty. Not good I thought.
The engine in the shed was on a bench. Looked complete from exhaust to stacks and apparently had had a rebuild at some point. There was a load of parts in a bakers bread tray and the gearbox on a shelf. It was all very grimy, covered in dust and had not seen any work for a good number of years.
It took ages to wipe up the engine to try to figure out the all important numbers.

bjmullan · Post by **bjmullan** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:27 pm

God, even I'm excited and I know what happens next ...

Bruce M · Post by **Bruce M** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:35 pm

Didn't the handles with the button shield end with the trigger handles for '70 (MY)?
'69 'E' & 'S' got 6" Fuchs but the T was left with 5.5"?

Feels like a transitional aug '68 "something"

Oh wait..... You just said "stacks" :D

jtparr · Post by **jtparr** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:37 pm

This is worse than having your dad read you a bed time story as a kid and he only reads a couple of pages a night.....

Sam · Post by **Sam** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:01 pm

So it's a very early 69 (I too thought 68 and 69 door handles were the same) the question is : what's going to make it a 'special' car?

I suspect it's not ever been a competition car, so I'm guessing it's either the first of something (first RHD MFI car?) or it's a known car, like a press car.

Is it VUW911G - E Sporto ?

Bruce M · Post by **Bruce M** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:39 pm

Couldn't resist and had to open a book

Punched dash top lasted until '69
Basket weave dash panel was "s" in '68 but all models in '69.
Does it has the rear window vents or the heated rear screen?

Hmm.... That vinyl roof cover isn't covering a leaky sunroof is it?

Lightweight_911 · Post by **Lightweight_911** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:40 pm

Definitely something significant historically & definitely an early '69 model.

I'll opt for the first RHD 2.0E manufactured - possibly the first 2.0E of any kind ?

Might even have been the earliest RHD lwb 911 built ?

210bhp · Post by **210bhp** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:42 pm

jtparr wrote:This is worse than having your dad read you a bed time story as a kid and he only reads a couple of pages a night.....

It's not very fair to compare me to your dad Jonathan. I am just a young fella as you know ( the grey hair is premature I assure you) trying to tell the story as quick as I can but a full on working day today for me till 5 then driving to Lancashire so I hope you have patience

Regards
Mike

The Minotaur · Post by **The Minotaur** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:54 pm

Mike, this is the most exciting story I have heard in a long time

Brilliant! I'm going to start looking in every barn and under every tarpaulin here in the Highlands now !!!!!!!

Tim

jtparr · Post by **jtparr** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:01 pm

Ok Mike, as it's you, I'll calm down...

...it's too good a story though

Safe driving

Jp

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