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964 RSL (if we are allowed to talk about new-fangled stuff)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:05 am
by gridgway
Saw this:

http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-964-RSL--21.html
Looks nice, probably all OTT with too much money to be recouped through the sale.

Any thoughts?

Graham

Re: 964 RSL (if we are allowed to talk about new-fangled stu

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:29 am
by 964RS
gridgway wrote:Saw this:

http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-964-RSL--21.html
Looks nice, probably all OTT with too much money to be recouped through the sale.

Any thoughts?

Graham
Its nice but the engine has been modified so much that it will put a lot of people off, which probably explains why its been for sale for so long in different places.

Besides I know of a minty one for sale for £15k less :wink:

Re: 964 RSL (if we are allowed to talk about new-fangled stu

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:46 pm
by gridgway
964RS wrote:
gridgway wrote:Saw this:

http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-964-RSL--21.html
Looks nice, probably all OTT with too much money to be recouped through the sale.

Any thoughts?

Graham
Its nice but the engine has been modified so much that it will put a lot of people off, which probably explains why its been for sale for so long in different places.
I think that was what I was trying to say. The cost of the engine mods is clearly huge, so it's very special. However, it's only special if you want that engine.
964RS wrote: Besides I know of a minty one for sale for £15k less :wink:
Do tell...

Graham

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:10 pm
by kevdodd
what do they polish their cars with! or are those images doctored in some way! :shock: 8)

Re: 964 RSL (if we are allowed to talk about new-fangled stu

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:16 pm
by 964RS
gridgway wrote:
Do tell...

Graham
Mine is for sale as I've bought a 964RSR and we are doing a ground up resto on it :shock:

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:29 pm
by gridgway
Can you let me know the details or point me to the ad?

Thanks
Graham

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:36 pm
by 964RS
email me and I'll send you them

jason AT mortgage1.fsnet Dot co.uk

Its been a strange sale...I've had 3 offers at the asking price but turned them all down! I guess it wasn't really for sale :oops:

It is now though although Berts Danish friend has first refusal

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:35 pm
by smallspeed
kevdodd wrote:what do they polish their cars with! or are those images doctored in some way! :shock: 8)
that type of finish is achievable without photoshop, however the lighting helps with the overall effect..

clicky

..having said that while that type of lighting makes it look shiny, if you've got any swirls, marring, holograming, etc then it will be highlighted by strong sunlight, gas discharge lighting, etc. the pics linked above are un-doctored, however a lot of them are taken with a camera phone so don't really do the finish justice..

as for the car, its nice enough (and i love the colour) but if i were in the market i wouldn't buy it; that engine, the black wheels and all the add-on bodywork bits are just not what i'd be looking for in an appreciating future classic, especially at a 15k premium over j's car which (last time i saw it) was a cracking looking standard car

b :)

ps.. jason, 964RSR?! you lucky sod! I had 1/2hr sitting next to ben s. in his at spa last year and it was a stunning machine!

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:12 pm
by 74rsman
Tis a wicked Car.
Was in Ninemeister for years - didnt get much use and was as spotless a 964rS as you would want to find.

Plenty o people buy a stock RS then get addicted to the track day fun of it and add the cage and the engine laters.

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:31 pm
by 964RS
Have to disagree a bit.

Most add cages and minor track better mods yes, but few have the extent of changes this engine has had. It has had a small fortune spent on it to get it as the previous owner specific requirements but its a long way from a standard 964RS engine now.

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:23 am
by smallspeed
and i think ^ this ^ is part of the reason its not selling, espically basically at the top of the market.. if you were looking for a top of the market mint 964RS right now, it would probably be as an investment hence i'm not sure you'd want those mods, i wouldn't anyway..

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:29 am
by pmjt
At that price it's pushing the limit for a '64RS - and at these heady heights, people want originality - this is a better buy IMHO as long as you're not looking for a trackday weapon.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1233189.htm

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:36 am
by 964RS
pmjt wrote:At that price it's pushing the limit for a '64RS - and at these heady heights, people want originality - this is a better buy IMHO as long as you're not looking for a trackday weapon.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1233189.htm
Errrr yuk a C2 pretending to be an RS! :wink:

You can't have this interior and go around telling people you own an RS.. :wink:

Image

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:20 am
by pmjt
964RS wrote:Errrr yuk a C2 pretending to be an RS! :wink:

You can't have this interior and go around telling people you own an RS.. :wink:
Oh gawd, he's come back from his jollys full of bounce! :roll: :lol:

Seriously, have you ever looked at the 'coloured' inserts in the Rubystone RS's :shock:

Defo not a C2 - it's a real RS under there. The thing with this RST is the rarity value - very little weight difference yet one of six - never seen one in the flesh though. Can't be many left with this mileage - when I sold mine (in 2004 from memory) only had 24k on it :oops:

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:26 am
by 210bhp
I know the seller very well. This is an immaculate car.

Regards
Mike