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Marketplace discussions 1967 RS rep

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:23 pm
by Nick Moss
as suggested elsewhere, here's one to get us going:

Will someone please point out which bit recreates a 2.7RS apart from the ducktail? And how do you get 343bhp from 3 litres?

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1967 Porsche 911 Historic vehicle, RS Recreation

DescriptionThis is a 1967 Porsche 911 Historic vehicle, RS Recreation, it has under gone a ground up restoration and total rebuild approximately 7 years ago. It was built for a show car ,an ultimate track day car / road car. This car is an RS recreation done with total enthusiasm love and care.

This is an original Porsche and has been built to replicate the ultimate 1973 Porsche RS by a local Porsche specialist.

Specification is as follows:
Finished in Maritime Blue with Carrera Decals and the classic 2.7 light weight duck tail spoiler and sported light weight 964RS body work
Bilstein Suspension all round
Strut brace on the front
Turbo Brakes drilled
Sports exhaust system, braided hoses
17" RS Spilt rims
Its running a 3.0 classic air cooled engine on 906 cams, Weber carburetors, JE pistons and uprated hardware allowing a full 343hp at 8000rpm
The car has FIA light weight racing seats, FIA racing harnesses, fire extinguisher, Roll cage, detachable Sparco racing steering wheel, RS style door cards with pull strapes and window winders which are drilled, aluminium drilled peddles, white dials.

The car has only covered 1,600 miles since its been built

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:32 pm
by Lightweight_911
I think the clue is in the registration number (phonetically speaking) ...

:roll:

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:35 pm
by Tosh
What a waste of a '67... if indeed it is.

After all, was the high level brake light an option in 1967? Seems like a very expensive add on...

Or has someone dropped a 964 (LWB) shell on it?

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:50 pm
by Vic Cohen
Its the drilled pedals that do the business.................

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:19 pm
by Bertroex
I think this must consist of my ultimate dream garage all in one.

911 SWB: check
911R: if you leave out the -S recreation-: check
911 RS '73: based around the description: check
964RS lightweight: check
hot engine based around a 3 litre block: check

Wow. :roll: a bargain.

Bert

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:02 pm
by porker914
this is from DVLA

The enquiry is complete

The vehicle details for KON 49E are:

Date of Liability 01 10 2008
Date of First Registration 09 05 2006
Year of Manufacture 1967
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3000CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour BLUE
Vehicle Type Approval null


How can first registration be 2006 when year of manufacture states 1967?

David

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:08 pm
by Lightweight_911
2006 would be when it was first registered in the UK - it was imported

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:53 am
by TheEasyLife
It has an impact bumper dash with airvents to the left of the dash so does this mean its been converted from LHD to RHD too?

I'd rather save £20K and get this one. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1969-PORSCHE-911- ... 286.c0.m14 Actually, I wouldn't. I'd buy this one http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1003253.htm despite it being a targa and having impact bumpers. Could always backdate it I suppose... I'll get me coat.

James

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:40 am
by pmjt
porker914 wrote:How can first registration be 2006 when year of manufacture states 1967?
Where either the records for the car were lost during the computerisation in the 80's and the car was off the road, being put back on the road recently OR it was exported and then re-imported.

If a copy of the V55/5 can be found (and Jeff Moyes at AFN Guildford used to have many of the old ones) then this can be changed.

Re: Marketplace discussions 1967 RS rep

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:31 am
by smallspeed
nick-moss wrote:how do you get 343bhp from 3 litres?
my first job was building race engines for TWR; we were getting around 330bhp from a 2 litre n/a engine. if this has been built as a track car then i would think 350 from a 3 litre would be possible?

the car is terrible though; looks like someone started out building a 964RS rep. then found a ducktail somewhere and fitted that.. very strange!

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:57 am
by Nick Moss
my first job was building race engines for TWR; we were getting around 330bhp from a 2 litre n/a engine
At a guess with DOHC and 16 valves and possible fuel injection? And, as you say, a race engine, not very suitable for a road car. I think Tuthills claim to get 300 bhp from a 3.0 with Jenvey throttle bodies, 348 is a whole lot more!

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:28 pm
by smallspeed
nick-moss wrote:
my first job was building race engines for TWR; we were getting around 330bhp from a 2 litre n/a engine
At a guess with DOHC and 16 valves and possible fuel injection? And, as you say, a race engine, not very suitable for a road car. I think Tuthills claim to get 300 bhp from a 3.0 with Jenvey throttle bodies, 348 is a whole lot more!
fair point re: fuel injection, although slide-throttles, 20v/DOHC :wink:
having said that, 330bhp was with some pretty restrictive intake orifices fitted as required by the rules..

that 911 was built "as an ultimate track car" so I assumed it would be in a fairly lairy state of tune; I dont think 110bhp/litre is out of this world for a well set-up n/a engine on large enough carbs with the right cams, high-enough engine speed, etc. and it does say peak-power is produced at 8000rpm which points to it being pretty peaky

either way its a weird car and I wouldn't touch it with a barge-pole regardless of how pretty it looks in maritime blue!