73T - Brake & Suspension Refurb - Part 2 - Refurbishment
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Do I need to purchase just the front wheel bearing kit (2 wheels in one kit) and two rear wheel bearings ?
Does anything else need to be replace ?
What grease do I use in the bearings ?
Any advise on re-assembly - like how on earth do I torque the stub axle in to the rear hub - do I need a pro for this ?
Ian
Does anything else need to be replace ?
What grease do I use in the bearings ?
Any advise on re-assembly - like how on earth do I torque the stub axle in to the rear hub - do I need a pro for this ?
Ian
Ian Highfield
Pre 73 1964 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT MSA Category 1 Rally Car
1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension setup and Sport Interior - SOLD
1973 911T (2.7 Carrera engine and loads of period mods - all steel) - SOLD
1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
Pre 73 1964 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT MSA Category 1 Rally Car
1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension setup and Sport Interior - SOLD
1973 911T (2.7 Carrera engine and loads of period mods - all steel) - SOLD
1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
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Can someone kindly identify the metal parts from the front hub assembly for me ?
I have looked on PET but am unclear as to exactly which piece is which.
Ian
I have looked on PET but am unclear as to exactly which piece is which.
Ian
Ian Highfield
Pre 73 1964 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT MSA Category 1 Rally Car
1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension setup and Sport Interior - SOLD
1973 911T (2.7 Carrera engine and loads of period mods - all steel) - SOLD
1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
Pre 73 1964 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT MSA Category 1 Rally Car
1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension setup and Sport Interior - SOLD
1973 911T (2.7 Carrera engine and loads of period mods - all steel) - SOLD
1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
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Rear Control Arm Refurb
With a few spare hours, and awful weather outside, I decide to tackle the first of the rear control arms.
Approach ended up being Paint Strip, Wire Brush, Marine Clean, Scotchbrite / Wet & Dry, electric drill soft wire brush and finally autosol polish - 3 hours to do the first one.
The Nitromors paint stripper gets to work on the old paint or underseal :-
Working one side at a time, and now after the wire bruish :-
Once both sides are stripped and wire brushed, it is in to the trust old red bucket filled with POR Marine Clean :-
Bearing surface looking good :-
Ian
Approach ended up being Paint Strip, Wire Brush, Marine Clean, Scotchbrite / Wet & Dry, electric drill soft wire brush and finally autosol polish - 3 hours to do the first one.
The Nitromors paint stripper gets to work on the old paint or underseal :-
Working one side at a time, and now after the wire bruish :-
Once both sides are stripped and wire brushed, it is in to the trust old red bucket filled with POR Marine Clean :-
Bearing surface looking good :-
Ian
Ian Highfield
Pre 73 1964 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT MSA Category 1 Rally Car
1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension setup and Sport Interior - SOLD
1973 911T (2.7 Carrera engine and loads of period mods - all steel) - SOLD
1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
Pre 73 1964 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT MSA Category 1 Rally Car
1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension setup and Sport Interior - SOLD
1973 911T (2.7 Carrera engine and loads of period mods - all steel) - SOLD
1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
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Next up is the wet & dry, which removes a lot of in grained dirt etc:-
To remove any stubborn old paint etc. I used a soft wire brush on the electric drill :-
Finally I finished off with a quick go over with autosol metal polish, and here is the before and after :-
I am sure they could be polished like chrome, but I just wanted clean natural alloy so am pleased with this effort. I will do the other one next weekend earliest, as work to do and then the NEC Classic CAr Show.
Ian
To remove any stubborn old paint etc. I used a soft wire brush on the electric drill :-
Finally I finished off with a quick go over with autosol metal polish, and here is the before and after :-
I am sure they could be polished like chrome, but I just wanted clean natural alloy so am pleased with this effort. I will do the other one next weekend earliest, as work to do and then the NEC Classic CAr Show.
Ian
Ian Highfield
Pre 73 1964 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT MSA Category 1 Rally Car
1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension setup and Sport Interior - SOLD
1973 911T (2.7 Carrera engine and loads of period mods - all steel) - SOLD
1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
Pre 73 1964 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT MSA Category 1 Rally Car
1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension setup and Sport Interior - SOLD
1973 911T (2.7 Carrera engine and loads of period mods - all steel) - SOLD
1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
Re: Rear Control Arm Refurb
Nice job there Ian, can I send you mine?Highfield wrote:
Ian
It is slowly getting hotter, IB hot rod build.http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/ ... orsche-911
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Pair of Control Arms now finished
It had been too long since I last got anything cleaned up on the car, so decided Boxing Day was a good day to finish up the other Control Arm.
Same procedure as for the previous post, and so I now have a nice clean pair ready to receive their new bearings and ER Weather-sealed mono balls.
Ian
Same procedure as for the previous post, and so I now have a nice clean pair ready to receive their new bearings and ER Weather-sealed mono balls.
Ian
Ian Highfield
Pre 73 1964 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT MSA Category 1 Rally Car
1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension setup and Sport Interior - SOLD
1973 911T (2.7 Carrera engine and loads of period mods - all steel) - SOLD
1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
Pre 73 1964 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT MSA Category 1 Rally Car
1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension setup and Sport Interior - SOLD
1973 911T (2.7 Carrera engine and loads of period mods - all steel) - SOLD
1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
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Interesting Ian - I'm planning to install my elephant rear monoballs and polybronze rear bushes next week-end
Have you any idea about torqing that stub axle nut? Bentley talks about torquing it to 300 - 320NM (if its' the castellated nut and 460NM if its' a self- locking nut! Just checked mine and it's a self- locking one so I'd need to produce 460NM torque!
My big torque wrench goes up to 150
Any ideas?
Have you any idea about torqing that stub axle nut? Bentley talks about torquing it to 300 - 320NM (if its' the castellated nut and 460NM if its' a self- locking nut! Just checked mine and it's a self- locking one so I'd need to produce 460NM torque!
My big torque wrench goes up to 150
Any ideas?
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
Large socket & breaker bar + a length of scaffold bar.
For tightening, you can use a bathroom scales to work out the torque you are
exerting - change in weight x length of bar used = torque (in whatever units you
are using, lbs.feet or metres.kilogram). ( 1Kg = approx 10N )
Eg , 2 meter length bar ( axle to end) needs 23kg force , so stand on scales, make a note of how fat you are, then apply an upward force on the bar which in effect will make you heavier .... keep applying force until you are applying ( in this example) 23Kg over & above your weight
or , 1 meter needs 46Kg etc
Its not highly accurate, but close enough IMHO
For tightening, you can use a bathroom scales to work out the torque you are
exerting - change in weight x length of bar used = torque (in whatever units you
are using, lbs.feet or metres.kilogram). ( 1Kg = approx 10N )
Eg , 2 meter length bar ( axle to end) needs 23kg force , so stand on scales, make a note of how fat you are, then apply an upward force on the bar which in effect will make you heavier .... keep applying force until you are applying ( in this example) 23Kg over & above your weight
or , 1 meter needs 46Kg etc
Its not highly accurate, but close enough IMHO
James
1973 911 2.4S
1993 964 C2
2010 987 Spyder
1973 MGB Roadster
Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast
1973 911 2.4S
1993 964 C2
2010 987 Spyder
1973 MGB Roadster
Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast
make sure nothing slips off .... if it does you can suddenly end up making a nice scratch in your wing with the pole
Another alternative is a torquemeister tool which is availble
http://www.356registry.org/Tech/axle_nut_removal.html
Another alternative is a torquemeister tool which is availble
http://www.356registry.org/Tech/axle_nut_removal.html
James
1973 911 2.4S
1993 964 C2
2010 987 Spyder
1973 MGB Roadster
Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast
1973 911 2.4S
1993 964 C2
2010 987 Spyder
1973 MGB Roadster
Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast
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I may cheat and get Tuthills to fit the bushings and torque the nuts.
Good question James as just removing spring plate should do for you Mark - we will need pics and words for me to follow
Note that 1NM = 0.73 ft/lbs
So 310nm = 229ft/lbs give or take so you could stand on a 2 foot bar Mark as you are not a fatty
Ian
Good question James as just removing spring plate should do for you Mark - we will need pics and words for me to follow
Note that 1NM = 0.73 ft/lbs
So 310nm = 229ft/lbs give or take so you could stand on a 2 foot bar Mark as you are not a fatty
Ian
Ian Highfield
Pre 73 1964 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT MSA Category 1 Rally Car
1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension setup and Sport Interior - SOLD
1973 911T (2.7 Carrera engine and loads of period mods - all steel) - SOLD
1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
Pre 73 1964 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT MSA Category 1 Rally Car
1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension setup and Sport Interior - SOLD
1973 911T (2.7 Carrera engine and loads of period mods - all steel) - SOLD
1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
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Because I'm doing the monoballs at the same time - for that I'll need to remove the trailing arms - If I can do this without removing the axle nut that would be great but I don't think I canhot66 wrote:Mark .. why do you want to remove the axle nut if you are only replacing the bushes ?
Cheers
Mark
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
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Thanks for that Ian - but I'll need to get to 460 NMHighfield wrote: So 310nm = 229ft/lbs give or take so you could stand on a 2 foot bar Mark as you are not a fatty
Ian
I'm planning to do a write-up - just need to make sure I take the camera into the garage
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
you don't need to remove the axle nut .sladey wrote:Because I'm doing the monoballs at the same time - for that I'll need to remove the trailing arms - If I can do this without removing the axle nut that would be great but I don't think I canhot66 wrote:Mark .. why do you want to remove the axle nut if you are only replacing the bushes ?
Cheers
Mark
James
1973 911 2.4S
1993 964 C2
2010 987 Spyder
1973 MGB Roadster
Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast
1973 911 2.4S
1993 964 C2
2010 987 Spyder
1973 MGB Roadster
Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast