Deciding factors ...
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Re: Deciding factors ...
Andy, you've bought a Fulvia deliberately to spite me. I feel hurt. 
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Re: Deciding factors ...
Already bought it?!!
I was enjoying thinking of ways to spend your money, what am I going to do now?! Does this mean the 964 purchase is off?
Rgds
Wayne
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I was enjoying thinking of ways to spend your money, what am I going to do now?! Does this mean the 964 purchase is off?
Rgds
Wayne
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93 964 C2
99 Boxster 2.5 > 3.4 hill climber
71 914/6 3.0 - gone
'You see Paul, hill climbing is like making love to a beautiful woman. You get your motor running, check your fluids, hang on tight and WHOA..30 seconds later it's all over!' Swiss Tony
99 Boxster 2.5 > 3.4 hill climber
71 914/6 3.0 - gone
'You see Paul, hill climbing is like making love to a beautiful woman. You get your motor running, check your fluids, hang on tight and WHOA..30 seconds later it's all over!' Swiss Tony
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Lightweight_911
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Re: Deciding factors ...
At least for the time being (& until I sell a couple of my other cars), yes.rhd racer wrote:
Does this mean the 964 purchase is off?
Rgds
Wayne
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Andy
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
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Re: Deciding factors ...
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A few more details on the car:
It's a 1968 model that has had 4 owners – 2 in France (the second person owning it from 1971 until 2008) & 2 in the Netherlands.
During the the past 52 years the car has only been driven ~ 24,000 km (approx 15,000 miles) from new (!!) & yet has had significant expenditure lavished on it.
Whilst I was in the Netherlands I drove over to the Hague to visit Ben Franke who runs the family business restoring & modifying classic Lancias – something they've been doing from the same premises since 1962.
The third owner of the car (who imported it into the Netherlands from France) was a very wealthy Lancia 'collector' who aspired to own the very best example of each model in his collection.
So, with this in mind - & having had several of his other classic Lancias worked on by them - he handed the car straight over to Franke with a directive to restore the car to 'concours' condition – money no object !!
Ben told me that there was nothing really wrong with the car other than that it had been unused for a number of years, requiring a degree of re-commissioning.
However, on the insistence of the owner, the car was stripped back to bare metal (whereupon the bodywork was found to require no remedial work) & treated to a windows-out respray in the original colour. In addition all mechanical components were checked over & anything even the slightest bit 'suspect' was to be replaced.
The degree of expenditure was staggering – amounting to several times the value of the car itself back then, but the end result met the owner's brief & the car won its class in the prestigious Paleis Het Loo Concours in 2010.
The car then got driven less than 7k km over the next 6 years – including taking part in the celebratory event at Zandvoort in 2012 to commemorate 50 years of the Fulvia plus as an entrant in the ZZF Rally the same year – before the owner sadly died in 2016.
The car was then bought by the fourth owner – another Dutch Lancia collector who kept it as part of his static collection, adding less than 1k km to the car's total.
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A few more details on the car:
It's a 1968 model that has had 4 owners – 2 in France (the second person owning it from 1971 until 2008) & 2 in the Netherlands.
During the the past 52 years the car has only been driven ~ 24,000 km (approx 15,000 miles) from new (!!) & yet has had significant expenditure lavished on it.
Whilst I was in the Netherlands I drove over to the Hague to visit Ben Franke who runs the family business restoring & modifying classic Lancias – something they've been doing from the same premises since 1962.
The third owner of the car (who imported it into the Netherlands from France) was a very wealthy Lancia 'collector' who aspired to own the very best example of each model in his collection.
So, with this in mind - & having had several of his other classic Lancias worked on by them - he handed the car straight over to Franke with a directive to restore the car to 'concours' condition – money no object !!
Ben told me that there was nothing really wrong with the car other than that it had been unused for a number of years, requiring a degree of re-commissioning.
However, on the insistence of the owner, the car was stripped back to bare metal (whereupon the bodywork was found to require no remedial work) & treated to a windows-out respray in the original colour. In addition all mechanical components were checked over & anything even the slightest bit 'suspect' was to be replaced.
The degree of expenditure was staggering – amounting to several times the value of the car itself back then, but the end result met the owner's brief & the car won its class in the prestigious Paleis Het Loo Concours in 2010.
The car then got driven less than 7k km over the next 6 years – including taking part in the celebratory event at Zandvoort in 2012 to commemorate 50 years of the Fulvia plus as an entrant in the ZZF Rally the same year – before the owner sadly died in 2016.
The car was then bought by the fourth owner – another Dutch Lancia collector who kept it as part of his static collection, adding less than 1k km to the car's total.
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Andy
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
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sladey
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Re: Deciding factors ...
Andy, as we are on the sixth page of this thread I think you could do with checking out the meaning of 'cut to the chase'Lightweight_911 wrote:To 'cut to the chase' I bought the car !!
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
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TimB
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Re: Deciding factors ...
Andy - sounds like a bit of a basket case you have there, think you need to pass and let me take it on; like Keith I have found the Fulvia becoming of increasing interest.
Congratulations!
Congratulations!
Tim
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Re: Deciding factors ...
given it's already yours, can we see some photos?
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A bunch of other crap (according to my wife)
1944 VW Schwimmwagen (originally a Porsche typ128, eventually VW166)
A bunch of other crap (according to my wife)
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Congratulations on the purchase Andy, that sounds like a terrific car. A friend of mine bought a 1.6 HF last year and it is a lovely thing and has some very interesting engineering. Look forward to hearing more about the car!
What else is in your garage(s) at the moment, I've lost track?!
What else is in your garage(s) at the moment, I've lost track?!
The force is strong in this one ......
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I like em with a bit of spice.
Campag Ragnos too
https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/ ... 968/199311
Campag Ragnos too
https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/ ... 968/199311
1958 356A Coupe
987 Gen 2 Boxster
987 Gen 2 Boxster
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Lightweight_911
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Re: Deciding factors ...
sladey wrote:
Andy, as we are on the sixth page of this thread I think you could do with checking out the meaning of 'cut to the chase'
Well, my aim was to generate some 'traffic' on the forum - & it worked ...
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Andy
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
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1972 911T | 1994 993 Carrera | 1999 986 Boxster |
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Vintage Heuer, Omega, Zenith and other vintage watches - http://www.heuerheritage.co.uk
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Re: Deciding factors ...
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“What about some pictures ?!!”
Unfortunately I didn't get the opportunity to collect the car before the Europe-wide 'lock down' …
I didn't take any pictures of the car when I went to check it out but here are some provided by the dealer to give you an idea:



- sitting a little bit high at the moment - will see if/how it settles down with a bit of use


The only thing I don't like about the car is the wheels – they are the standard/original 'as supplied' 1.3HF steel wheels.
Lancia homologated a few alternative wheels for the 1.3HF models – a slightly wider steel wheel & a 5.5 x 13 (magnesium) Campagnolo wheel.
Since I was fairly sure that, at some point, I would get an S1 Fulvia of some sort, I started looking about 6 months ago for a set of original 5.5in Campagnolos in Italy.
They were relatively rare in this size when new – the 6in version was far more 'common' – so are like the proverbial 'hen's teeth' nowadays.
Anything wider than 5.5in necessitates adding wheelarch extensions – something I didn't want to do – so the 6in wheels (original or repro) available weren't an option for me.
Rarity combined with the fact that they would now be at least 40+ years old & were manufactured from “Elektron' (essentially magnesium), ensured that it wouldn't be an easy task finding a set …
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“What about some pictures ?!!”
Unfortunately I didn't get the opportunity to collect the car before the Europe-wide 'lock down' …
I didn't take any pictures of the car when I went to check it out but here are some provided by the dealer to give you an idea:



- sitting a little bit high at the moment - will see if/how it settles down with a bit of use


The only thing I don't like about the car is the wheels – they are the standard/original 'as supplied' 1.3HF steel wheels.
Lancia homologated a few alternative wheels for the 1.3HF models – a slightly wider steel wheel & a 5.5 x 13 (magnesium) Campagnolo wheel.
Since I was fairly sure that, at some point, I would get an S1 Fulvia of some sort, I started looking about 6 months ago for a set of original 5.5in Campagnolos in Italy.
They were relatively rare in this size when new – the 6in version was far more 'common' – so are like the proverbial 'hen's teeth' nowadays.
Anything wider than 5.5in necessitates adding wheelarch extensions – something I didn't want to do – so the 6in wheels (original or repro) available weren't an option for me.
Rarity combined with the fact that they would now be at least 40+ years old & were manufactured from “Elektron' (essentially magnesium), ensured that it wouldn't be an easy task finding a set …
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Andy
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
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rhd racer
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Re: Deciding factors ...
Lovely, great find
93 964 C2
99 Boxster 2.5 > 3.4 hill climber
71 914/6 3.0 - gone
'You see Paul, hill climbing is like making love to a beautiful woman. You get your motor running, check your fluids, hang on tight and WHOA..30 seconds later it's all over!' Swiss Tony
99 Boxster 2.5 > 3.4 hill climber
71 914/6 3.0 - gone
'You see Paul, hill climbing is like making love to a beautiful woman. You get your motor running, check your fluids, hang on tight and WHOA..30 seconds later it's all over!' Swiss Tony
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Re: Deciding factors ...
love that Andy
Those wheels/ tyres do look skinny !
Those wheels/ tyres do look skinny !
James
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Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast
1973 911 2.4S
1993 964 C2
2010 987 Spyder
1963 Honda C100 Supercub
Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast
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Very nice, love those seats, are they only fitted to that model?
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