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Can't keep up with this thread Mick - you certainly get the award for quickest restoration !

Great work.

Nice jig

With a full front pan replacement could it droop slightly? The rear fix points are quite close together and have a fair amount of steel hanging as a long lever.

Perhaps you could add a couple of reference points to check with a spirit level. If these points were parallel with another reference point (chassis tunnel?) it would be a useful extra check of the front to back level.

Oh, and a great contribution to DDK

Bruce M wrote:Nice jig

With a full front pan replacement could it droop slightly? The rear fix points are quite close together and have a fair amount of steel hanging as a long lever.

Don't think drooping is likely if the crossmember and back support points are sound - and if they're not then you want to be on a full Celette I'd say. The jig is not that heavy and those mounts are very solidly attached, as they need to be! I have seen some resto threads where folk have positioned the front pan based on the front A arm brackets. Basically this is just doing the same, but without the 'droop' potential created by the fanbloc bushes - which would cause some deflection, and is the reason i personally wouldn't recommend doing that.

Also this jig just duplicates the one that Porsche made for their repair shops, as shown in the Workshop Manual. That came in two parts, with an extension to allow you to replace the crossmember mounts, as I read the manual.

So, in summary, I think it will be 'droop proof'

This one.

Lightweight_911 wrote:Can't keep up with this thread Mick - you certainly get the award for quickest restoration !

You're not wrong!

As Mick mentioned we'd agreed a swap and rather than posting I thought it was good opportunity to say hello and see how he's getting on...

...forget Jack Olsen, Mick has a location and set up to die for and this is one workshop that sees plently of action....



Mick and I have a lot in common when it comes to Porsches, we're both fairly new to the early Porsche scene, both had Light Ivory restorations started around the same time, and both are on our second 911 restoration where both are going Tangerine!...

...but that's where the similarities end. Whereas I have to rely on others Mick does it all by himself and I don't think there's a single problem that he couldn't work around. Put a task in front of him and he rolls up his sleaves and gets stuck in, and mostly self taught too!

I'm simply in awe and full of admiration of all the work and effort that Mick puts into his projects, he certainly gets the job done!

And the fruits of his labour look truly gorgeous...



Looking forward to seeing the second car finished Mick, it'll probably be on the road before my first!

All the best,

Hi, in case it helps here is ours.



Alan

So with all the metalwork done, and as much of the preparation as I like to do unsupervised, earlier this week the shell was loaded onto prototype 3 dolly - this one has fittings to allow the shell to be bolted to it via the rear torsion bar and the crossmember mounts, so then all you need to do is strap the dolly to the trailer. Not a great advantage on the trip to the painter, but invaluable on the return trip as there is no need to strap anything over new paintwork!



Lots of discussion with Charlie at the bodyshop (Ivada Bollokov to his close friends) about the best sequence to achieve the desired end result with optimum/minimum masking/risk of overspray/dolly + spinner changeovers etc. Result was a plan as follows:

1. Stonechip the shell, then paint the underneath, under bonnet and engine comp in body colour on the spinner.
2. Off the spinner to complete any mods to my preparation, prime, guide coat, flat etc
3. Paint the underside of the roof and door pillars
4. Paint the dash satin black
5. Paint the rest

Stage one completed today:

First two coats of black stone chip over the POR 15 Rust encapsulator (black) and POR Tie-coat primer (blue-grey). All the underside just up the base of the sills, all the engine bay, inside the under bonnet up to the level of the bulkhead, feathered up around the battery boxes a la Richard Murphy's fine recent example. I must confess I am in Paul's (Feryman) camp here and my instruction to Charlie was to get a good thick coat of body colour on top of the POR layers.

First I masked off the areas where I didn't want stone chip



Then two good coats of stone chip



Off with the masking and out with the sunglasses Do like the colour




Out of the booth after a good bake and off with the rest of the masking. Now for Stage 2

Tangerine is one of the best colours for an early 911 ...

Agreed, nice colour Mick. Crack on.

I do like Tangerine!

nick-moss wrote:I do like Tangerine!

Praise indeed from DDK's own official Victor Meldrew ....... well Nick's not exactly praising my car .... or my workmanship... or my colour choice, because it was made by some German 50yrs ago...., so ...... hmmmm...


.... Glad you like it Victor Have to say I have yet to see Nick's grumpy side personally. Might be because I am of a similar age and grumpy tendency? Surely not.

Never saw myself as an orange car sort of bloke, but ever since I saw James' (23e heure) old E I have been waiting for the day to see AMR go back to its original colour, and I was not disappointed. Look forward to the 'Full Monty Tangerine'. Next week or the week after.....

Mick

I love a bit of orange meself looking great already, nice work.

Well we've had IKEA, brutally transitioned with media and etch primer to 'Back to Black', and finally (I hope!) we have moved smoothly to the appropriately German 'Tangerine Dream'.

I have, as with the Doctors car, taken advantage of the space and time in my garage to get a few parts of the car ready to refit. The engine board has been stripped, repainted and rebuilt.



Jonathan (jtparr) has expertly recovered the steering wheel, and I have cleaned, repaired and checked the loom. Poly bushes have been oozed into place, rear bearings in the freezer and then pressed into trailing arms (buy FAG bearings part no. 33 41 1 130 617 for BMW instead of through Porsche - same bearing less than half the price. See this 911S thread http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums ... 2B+bearing). All ready to go on the car.

Even took the opportunity to add to the skill base by going on a car upholstery/trimming course in Shropshire. Surprised how straightforward it all is. Dash tops, rear quarters, rear seat squabs, door tops - even a land rover seat cover - all in 2 days. Only snag is you need a £800 industrial sewing machine ......



Anyway after much prepping, priming, flatting, and a re-re-check of the door and wing gap fitment, this morning I got the call ....






And that repaired roof ..... luverly



As I was loading up at the bodyshop the boys at the Forge Garage next door said they also thought orange was a nice colour, but that they preferred a £10 can of Dulux for their racer



Anyway after a tense short trip home it was offload time

BEFORE



AFTER



And nicely tucked up



The pro photographers will have to explain why my crappy camera (and there might be the answer!) shows two shades of orange .....
Anyway it looks better in the flesh than any of the above. As is my custom the paint is 'out of the gun' and has yet to be polished as I like to get all the greasy finger marks, stray adhesive and any nicks, scratches and dents done during assembly, corrected when I'm finished.

Big milestone in the process

Good work Mick, coming along nicely

Must admit all these blut orange photos on various threads are really making me miss my old E.

BTW, I notice that you have been so busy with your cars, you have not had time to move the loose bricks from beside your gate

23e Heure wrote: BTW, I notice that you have been so busy with your cars, you have not had time to move the loose bricks from beside your gate

Not quite true James .... they have been stacked a little more tidily and the new power supply to the shed has been clipped neatly to the wall . That said I see you were clearly a dab hand at that 'Spot the Difference' quiz in newspapers of yore.

If this car turns out looking as good and going as well as your old one then I'll be happy.

See you at the Fairmile some time (or Essen?)

Mick