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Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:33 pm
by Mick Cliff
Novel solution.... I like it!
Known as 'Queen Springs' in the building game I think. Used for closing gates/doors.

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:22 pm
by Mr Pharmacist
That is a great idea - might work for my 914 boot lid. Where did you get it from Chris? A quick google for spring hatch and queen spring didnt bring up many UK options.

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:52 am
by haasad
Thats a cool idea. Its a marine part made by plastimo, almost any good chandlery will be able to order. I 've also seen them used on camper conversions so maybe another source. I think they are also known as spring or sprung struts ?

Andy

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:21 am
by jury
Mr Pharmacist wrote:That is a great idea - might work for my 914 boot lid. Where did you get it from Chris? A quick google for spring hatch and queen spring didnt bring up many UK options.

I found it on ebay.co.uk.....I didn't know what it was in German :lol:

There was only one when I searched:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121247116538? ... 1439.l2649


Cheers
Chris

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:32 am
by haasad

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:21 pm
by jury
Same thing Andy, but thats only 11cm......You need to use the longer 12 '' version :)

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 3:24 pm
by jury
The Output Flanges on the Gearbox are still causing a problem, basically I cannot get them to fit back in and turn freely...but the end recess has now been lathed down to 10.0mm to match the original Flanges...

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I have a feeling that the Spider Gear has dropped inside.

So after abit of head scratching and looking at parts drawings I tried to tease the Spider Gear back in place by holding a torch at one end and shining it through...no joy.....

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So should I remove the Diff and see what is going on inside ? How hard is it to remove the Diff :shock: ???




Actually its quite straight forward....

Diff plate off.....

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And slide out the Diff....blimey its heavy !

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Once on the Workbench the problem was obvious. The centre pin was out of line, and no amount of jiggling would ever get it back in place.....

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One interesting thing though is that part number 15 below is not in my Diff ?...

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If part number 15 is not there, then the only way I can see it going back together is that the Stretch bolts locate into the pin, part number 5

MR BAINBRIDGE, IS THIS CORRECT ???...

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If this is correct then I think that is makes sense to fit the Diff plate and the Output Flange on the work bench.....then re-install into the Gearbox as one complete unit.....and then install the other Output Flange on the other side. This way the pin and Spider Gears will stay in the correct place...

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I used to the opportunity to look everything over and all appears to be ok. I cleaned and reassembled everything and also cleaned out the housing in the Gearbox....I guess this is why people say only remove one Output Flange at a time :roll:

But I think it all makes sense now...


Cheers
Chris

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:41 pm
by 964RS
jury wrote: But I think it all makes sense now...
To you maybe :lol: :lol:

I was lost after flanges...

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:51 pm
by johnM
jury wrote:
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Bolt 14 locates (screws) into part 3 the sun gears. Mike will confirm but I would think that 15 must be fitted to the diff. The bolt 14 clamps the sun gear to the output flange if that makes sence.

Kind Regards

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:55 pm
by johnM
Hi Chris

Has part 5 got holes in it for the nipple on the bolt to locate into?

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 8:02 pm
by jury
johnM wrote:
jury wrote:
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Bolt 14 locates (screws) into part 3 the sun gears. Mike will confirm but I would think that 15 must be fitted to the diff. The bolt 14 clamps the sun gear to the output flange if that makes sence.

Kind Regards
Thanks John, thats what I thought.....makes sense. I cannot understand why part 15 is not be fitted, even if the Gearbox had been rebuilt it is such a distinct piece that it would be obvious if not fitted. Part 5 does have a hole in, and the end of the Bolts 14 have nipples which locate into the hole. From what I can see these nipples would foul on part 5 if they did not go into the hole. I have some other bolts which have a flat end (no nipple) which would indicate that pin 16 would fit in the hole if these bolts were to be used with part 15.....

Hmmm ? I will call the Sage :wink:

EDIT: Looking at the drawing above again, the bolts 14 are flat ended without the nipples.


Horn works though.....love the high pitch italian sound :wink:

https://vimeo.com/93486908
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Cheers
Chris

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 9:11 pm
by jury
Bit of searching.....Looks like I have a simplified Diff...

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Porsche improved the Design to this, which is alot stronger...

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Need to Speak to Mr Bainbridge to see if he has some parts to update the Diff.....parts 3 and 1, and maybe 5.


Cheers
Chris

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 9:44 pm
by Bruce M
Yes, you have got the simplified diff. Please do update it for peace of mind.
The parts you need can be sourced from a 914 box.

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:14 am
by jury
Wiper works.....Ignore the Cardboard blade. I didn't want the metal arm flying off during the first try, sweep and coverage looks good though :)


https://vimeo.com/93581984
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Chris

Re: 912 outlaw project

Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:23 am
by sladey
jury wrote:Bit of searching.....Looks like I have a simplified Diff...
Need to Speak to Mr Bainbridge to see if he has some parts to update the Diff.....parts 3 and 1, and maybe 5.
Cheers
Chris
Or use it as a golden opportunity to get an LSD......