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Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:59 pm
by stretch
Good progress, enjoyable thread.

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:07 pm
by deano
rich73 wrote: Managed to make it from 2 pieces, wasn't in the mood for TIG so just MIG welded in both sides and cleaned up with a flap disk.
Rich

:lol: great job, and great minds think alike - just made this a few days ago, starting with a card template made from the original piece. I planned to TIG from the outside, but went with MIG on the inside seams in the end so I could grind/round off the outside profile to match the original. Just needs a bit more tidying up, and plug holes, before I weld it in place.... I also had to replace the metal behind it but, thankfully, the adjacent floor section was A-OK :bounce:

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:43 pm
by rich73
Amazing that looks like a remarkably familiar scene. I was thrown for a while as my RHS is different from the LHS due to oil line clearance. I do enjoy TIG and it's great for detailed work but I do think MIG is incredible for its speed and versatility.

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 3:26 pm
by BILLY BEAN
Great thread. Admirable speed and quality of metalwork.

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 11:43 pm
by jtparr
Excellent...cracking pace...well done :)

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 10:01 pm
by rich73
Thanks for the comments, no actual work on the car this week but made some great progress. Met Kirk and his cars this week which was real morale booster, thanks so much for all the great advice as well as supply of these roll bar mounting plates, really happy with them thanks.

Image2021-05-02_08-59-49 by richard cannings, on Flickr

I now have a full set of hand made ST arches too. There were made using moulds from an original ST as reference and hand formed on an English wheel.

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Couldn’t resist a mockup.

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To date I’ve put 260 hrs into the car, this includes planning, strip down and selling parts. I’m going to have a few weeks off now to catch up with some admin such a holiday and prepping for the impending Surrey winter .

Image2021-05-02_09-06-30 by richard cannings, on Flickr


I’ll keep updating the thread with my thoughts as well parts I’m looking for. I’ll start by asking if anyone has a set of worn out TB15’s in the corner of their garage that they are struggling to throw out. Would be great to have wheels and tyres fitted when I weld on the arches. Just priced a set and struggling with the idea of spending £1700 on a set of tyres at the moment.

Thanks
Rich

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:14 pm
by rich73
Hi There,
Bit of a break but back to it today. Collected a few more parts, really pleased to get a brake fluid reservoir set.

Image2021-06-09_05-50-01 by richard cannings, on Flickr

Thought I'd have a go at the rear seat bases. Attempt number one was to route out the pattern on MDF and hammer into shape, results weren't terrible but I wasn't really happy with it. I think I'd had a nylon rod to punch into the slots it may have been better but I was just hitting a Pein hammer with a rubber mallet.

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Decided to make some formers out of flat bar and screw them to the MDF, added benefit the this method was that that I could rearrange the bars to make the former for the other side.

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Steel screwed to the MDF.

Image2021-06-09_05-45-34 by richard cannings, on Flickr

Much happier with this, defiantly going to remake the other one.

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Might try get it welded in tomorrow.

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:30 pm
by Ian Comerford
Great skills.

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:42 am
by rhd racer
That really is great work

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:37 am
by rich73
Thanks for the comments,
Slight change of plan as hadn't really appreciated that with the seat base panels removed I had a really good opportunity to clean and paint the torsion bar tube from the top.

Image2021-06-14_11-10-06 by richard cannings, on Flickr

Seems to be on good condition with just surface rust. Looks like it hasn't really seen much protection on the top surface from new, underside is still well protected.

Was a bit limited for time so decided to make the other seat repair panel.

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20 mins later.....

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Then cut, shaped and TIG welded the seams.

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I was really interested now long this took to make so timed it, 2 hours included a tool tidy afterwards. This includes everything apart from making the bars which were reused from the other side.

Just been looking at Darren's thread(thanks for posting so much detail) and seen that the strengthening at rear of the tunnel ties into the tube, hadn't realised this from all the other images I'd seen. Looks like adding this is probably the next step after I've had a clean up.
I'd welcome any comments on the strengthening and how effective it is although think I will do it just for completeness.

Thanks
Rich

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:42 am
by alfacat
Looking good, I'm always amazed by peoples metalwork skills!

All the best
Ian F.

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:55 pm
by 911hillclimber
IIRC the strengthening of the lower vertical bulk head to the tube was a factory racing mod to stop the tube flexing under hard acceleration and braking. I would add them if I was in the same position as you are now unless you are originality driven.
Car will be fine without them too!

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:33 pm
by majordad
Certainly very dedicated and skilled work here.

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:17 pm
by rich73
Hi all,
Thanks for the comments. Struggling to get much time on the car at the moment but hoping the that will change next week. I've decide that I'll basically do all the body strengthening modifications I can find. I know that once its painted I wont go back. I did some research and couldn't justify the price of the plates available online. I was thinking about drawing them up on CAD and getting them laser/water cut but as I only need one set this didn't really make sense. Thought I'd start with the front strut tops. Cardboard template then cut out with plasma.
Did some free hand cutting and must admit I was amazed by how clean the RTech could cut. I've had it for years but always just used it for hacking out rusty steel or fixing tractors. Set on 50% power with a template seemed to work well.

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Front ARB mount strengthening was next on the list, checked out the price for the elephant racing panels and felt suitably motivated. Came up with the idea of MIG welding a rod to the panel to create a guide for the curves.

Image2021-06-23_04-47-27 by richard cannings, on Flickr

Worked amazingly well.

Image2021-06-23_04-47-42 by richard cannings, on Flickr

Bit more tweaking needed but really happy with it, other side shouldn't take long as I can just flip the template.

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Had a play with using Foamex as a template too, thought it would just melt but seemed to work well.

Hoping to spend next week on the rear seat bases and torsion tube strengthening. Think in going make my own rear ARB mounts, not sure if need to get and ARB to make sure they are in the right place or just put them in the same place as they are on my 3.2, any thoughts welcome?

Also had a trip to Pyramid Steel In Aldershot to replace my Oxy/Acetylene Bottles, they've just opened a new shop with loads of lengths of steel all on display and ready to go, loads of abrasives too.

Rich

Re: Meet Ralph - 1970 ST project

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:25 pm
by rich73
Just sample of my exotic abrasives stash.....

Image2021-06-23_08-22-07 by richard cannings, on Flickr