912 outlaw project
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Re: 912 outlaw project
I have found it is easier to fit the top edge first, with the 'Patient Assistant' pushing the screen towards the front of the car and down as well if possible. Then the sides together a bit at a time, then the bottom edge.
It is a PITA whichever way though! And the plastic spatula thingy or similar is a must, as is an OE seal.
Mick
It is a PITA whichever way though! And the plastic spatula thingy or similar is a must, as is an OE seal.
Mick
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Re: 912 outlaw project
You know you are addicted when you start making your own Spanners...
32mm 'Thin' shaped spanner made at lunchtime...Used to nip up the Oil return reducing adaptor, and then hold in place whilst the 90degree Hose fitting is tightened...




I am happy with my custom Strut bar, I do like those Rose joints...




Cheers
Chris
32mm 'Thin' shaped spanner made at lunchtime...Used to nip up the Oil return reducing adaptor, and then hold in place whilst the 90degree Hose fitting is tightened...




I am happy with my custom Strut bar, I do like those Rose joints...




Cheers
Chris
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sladey
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Re: 912 outlaw project
Thanks for the glass fitting guide chris - looks a piece of p155......
Custom tool looks good - I've got a 36mm ring spanner cut in half with the end removed

So it works on the oil pipes

Custom tool looks good - I've got a 36mm ring spanner cut in half with the end removed

So it works on the oil pipes

The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
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sladey
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Re: 912 outlaw project
Oh and the strut brace looks pretty cool too
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
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Re: 912 outlaw project
Strut brace looks great
….looking forward to seeing the interior finished 
Darren
72T 2.5... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56183
73 2.4E ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44242
77 Carrera 3.0...to 74 3.0RS ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63389
72T 2.5... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56183
73 2.4E ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44242
77 Carrera 3.0...to 74 3.0RS ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63389
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Re: 912 outlaw project
Cool Beanz...
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Cortina
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Re: 912 outlaw project
Strut brace looks good ......... BUT ............ won't be much use at "restraining" any twisting moment ... will it ?? (but yes - grand for any compressive or tensile loads) hmm .............
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Re: 912 outlaw project
Do you think this would be as a result of using the Rose joints, or the fact that they are threaded into the bar.Cortina wrote: "restraining" any twisting moment
Be great to get you thoughts.
Cheers
Chris
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1968 912/11 RAL 7001 ' MOD ROD '
1990 964 C2 Velvet Red
1991 VW Vanagon GL (SOLD - Vanagone)
2017 Coleman CT200U
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Gary71
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Re: 912 outlaw project
It needs to be triangulated to really do anything for BIW torsion. I've also got a similar jointed bar to yours and it does help the steering response, but it would be dramatically more effective if it were tied in properly. But then I couldn't get any luggage in so that's not going to happen!
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Re: 912 outlaw project
Like this:

No where to put the Le Mans tent!

No where to put the Le Mans tent!
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Re: 912 outlaw project
Gary71 wrote:It needs to be triangulated to really do anything for BIW torsion. I've also got a similar jointed bar to yours and it does help the steering response, but it would be dramatically more effective if it were tied in properly. But then I couldn't get any luggage in so that's not going to happen!
Yep, I went for looks.....bloody designers
Seriously though, I am open to updates. I always said that the car will never really be completed.....and I do need to be able to pack my CLM tent
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1967 912 Polo Red
1968 912/11 RAL 7001 ' MOD ROD '
1990 964 C2 Velvet Red
1991 VW Vanagon GL (SOLD - Vanagone)
2017 Coleman CT200U
“It’s not where you’re from, it's where you’re at”
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1968 912/11 RAL 7001 ' MOD ROD '
1990 964 C2 Velvet Red
1991 VW Vanagon GL (SOLD - Vanagone)
2017 Coleman CT200U
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Re: 912 outlaw project
Megga triangulation (as pictured) not necessary (my opinion !) , but it's good to prevent twist if you can. Front end of a 911 very light (as you know) and the design was good to start with.
Rose joints will swivel (spelling ?) and as such will not transfer (and hence resit) twisting loads. Grab bar in middle and twist .... it moves ..... yes ?. Threaded joints won't be the reason / problem.
In the rally car I am building I have used a piece of steel box section solidly bolted in between 2 brackets similar to yours ... but I went to a lot of trouble to make sure the brackets were "perfectly" aligned before welding them on ... otherwise when you bolt it up tight , you simply put loads back into the structure .... not good.
Can you tell it's an engineer talking ??
Rose joints will swivel (spelling ?) and as such will not transfer (and hence resit) twisting loads. Grab bar in middle and twist .... it moves ..... yes ?. Threaded joints won't be the reason / problem.
In the rally car I am building I have used a piece of steel box section solidly bolted in between 2 brackets similar to yours ... but I went to a lot of trouble to make sure the brackets were "perfectly" aligned before welding them on ... otherwise when you bolt it up tight , you simply put loads back into the structure .... not good.
Can you tell it's an engineer talking ??
Royal Enfield .. still in India
GL 1800 Tour DCT, for pleasure / Fantic 240 Professional - play
Rally 911 (1966) build parked for a while
Rally 928 (work started again - inc serious weight loss programe !)
.... and now another VW Up GTI owner.
GL 1800 Tour DCT, for pleasure / Fantic 240 Professional - play
Rally 911 (1966) build parked for a while
Rally 928 (work started again - inc serious weight loss programe !)
.... and now another VW Up GTI owner.
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Re: 912 outlaw project
I'm no engineer but to me the brace looks very similar in design to those fitted to a 2.7RS…..
…and looks the DB's
Darren
72T 2.5... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56183
73 2.4E ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44242
77 Carrera 3.0...to 74 3.0RS ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63389
72T 2.5... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56183
73 2.4E ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44242
77 Carrera 3.0...to 74 3.0RS ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63389
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Re: 912 outlaw project
Well, there will be two of us to decide if the idea works, because I've already made a similar bar with Rose-joints for my car! 
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Re: 912 outlaw project
2.7RS models didn't come with a strut brace as std - & the 2.8 RSR's typically had a non-adjustable (ie fixed length) tube bolted to the welded brkts.
Some even had the tube welded to the brkts ...
Andy
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