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Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:37 pm
by inaglasshouse
8bit-ash wrote:Looks great, What was the Underseal you used/colour and what sort of gun was it applied with? Looks very close texture wise.
Has the engine bay been done in Black Schultz?
Hi Ash,

I trust yours is going well. I think your cost / benefit analysis, hence choosing to do the inside and underside yourself, makes perfect sense. But Steve's about to earn his money with the outside - sculpting the shape, light lines, colour sanding etc.

To answer your questions - Steve tells me that any of the water-based stonechip products will give the required finish (of course you have to apply it with that goal in mind, pretty thickly in some places and more lightly elsewhere).

We started by looking at Darren's recommendation, Teroson Terotex, but Steve wasn't able to easily get the grey water based version.

We didn't spend too much time on that, because I preferred plan B anyway - instead of rely on whatever grey the stonechip comes in, Steve suggested we overpaint the relevant areas in whatever grey I felt was the best match with my reference spec.
So we stonechipped it all black, painted the underside and arches grey, and a later step (after outer colour) will be to reproduce what the factory did with the overpainting in black.

On 1970 cars, thinking about the process and looking at the end results on original cars, I believe the process was:

Step 1) Underside, under wings, engine bay etc stonechipped. Originally in grey stonechip, in my case painted grey.

Step 2) Outer colour coats. Overspray gets on the grey bits, which looks a mess

Step 3) Quick fix is to bung on some black to hide the scene of the crime. I reckon the brief was to do just enough to make the car look nice when viewed from sensible angles, not to give it a full coat. So the guy applying the black to the wheelarches will have stuck the gun quite far up into the arches but not tried too hard for perfection. As long as it looked OK with the wheels on, job done.
Similarly for the floor edges. The black looked like this:
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It does not extend across the entire floor - it's been sprayed in from the side, just enough to make the car look good in side view.
Mine will be like that.

My engine bay has been done in the same black stonechip, but will later be painted in black, more matt than the current finish (I think it's too glossy, am going more matt, just about to approve some spray-out samples for this and the dash).

You probably know more than me about this, but hope it helps a bit. Let me know what I've got wrong!
Cheers, Richard.

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:39 pm
by inaglasshouse
MarkIII wrote:Lovely colour Richard, you don't tend to see many early signal orange cars, your cars certainly going to stand out...... in a good way....
Thanks Mark, good to see you earlier this week, hope you get another couple of weeks to enjoy your (best colour!) car.
Dougieboy1 wrote:this is going to be a stunner!! Excellent work.
Thanks Andrew. I saw your shell on Monday, it's coming along very nicely indeed I think.

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:30 am
by inaglasshouse
BTW the Ferrari in the background is a 275 GTB. More specifically, the ex Peter Sellers car, as advertised here:
http://www.dke.uk/s/615

When they've finished my car, DC will be returning that one to its original colour - a rather tasteful light metallic blue.

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:25 am
by 911S Ecosse
Have you seen the 1970 car for sale at JZM with lots of detail pics from the restoration...?

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:32 am
by Dougieboy1
just re reading this thread. Realised some of my Barry pics are almost identical to yours!

Hey Barry, have you only ever restored one 911 properly and then just recycled the photos? Ha ha

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:44 pm
by inaglasshouse
911S Ecosse wrote:Have you seen the 1970 car for sale at JZM with lots of detail pics from the restoration...?
I hadn't. Thanks for the tip-off, will take a look. Any idea who did the work?
Cheers, Richard.

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:48 pm
by inaglasshouse
Dougieboy1 wrote:just re reading this thread. Realised some of my Barry pics are almost identical to yours!
Hey Barry, have you only ever restored one 911 properly and then just recycled the photos? Ha ha
Agree the big stuff (sills, torque tube, front pan) always looks quite similar.
But the past repairs and crashes add variety... seems rust only knows a few ways to bugger up a 911 shell, but humans are endlessly inventive.

Cheers, Richard.

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:31 am
by 911S Ecosse
I guess you would have to call them and ask.
Try Steve McHale at JZM.

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:16 pm
by inaglasshouse
Here's my rig for today. One of the local hire places rents out race car trailers:

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My poor little BMW (daily driver) looks a bit leafcutter ant in that pic, but towed the mahoosive trailer fine. I needed the biggest version for the door height.

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Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:59 pm
by inaglasshouse
Shell is finished, the paint is really excellent, and today my car returned safely home to the garage:

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That's all folks. See you in 6 months when I hope to have some time to start the refit...

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:19 pm
by Lightweight_911
Looks stunning ...

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:23 pm
by 911GP
Richard, that looks awesome! A superb job. Well done.
Kind regards
Gitesh

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:32 pm
by 210bhp
Looks like Barry and Steve have done another stunning job.
Look at those panel gaps and what a paint finish. Wow colour.
You must be chuffed Richard.

Regards
Mike

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:54 pm
by jtparr
Well done Barry and Steve....that almost looks OK... :lol: ....you may find yourself with a visitor over Xmas Richard...am sure it will look even more gorgeous in the flesh.....are you doing the rebuilding by yourself...?...hope so...I can pop in and enjoy watching progress

Best
Jonathan

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:12 am
by Ralph
Very nice.