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Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:49 pm
by Ferry Man
So, if you delete the motor you are left with two options:
1. cheap & simple = fill the hole with a rubber bung.
2. expensive = replace the glass.
The bung or plug is effective but not very elegant.
The screen replacement is pricey but is the correct thing to do.
You then have two other options:
1. Genuine Porsche RS rear screen (lightweight, thin glass, no heating elements)
2. Genuine Porsche Turbo rear screen (standard thickness and with heated screen)
Most turbos had the wiper but you could specify a car without rear wiper. Hence the availability of that glass.
I've gone for the standard glass with integral heating. And no hole.

Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:54 pm
by Ferry Man
Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:59 pm
by Ferry Man
As we go through the thread I'll try and point out the issues unique to 993's.
There are many faults that develop and you'd be wise to look out for them if you're buying.
I thoroughly recommend you read Jackals guide. It's the definitive work. I cannot add anything to this very comprehensive article. Look for 'Buying Guide'. Or any of the many 993 topics. I tip my hat to him.
http://www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/
Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:05 pm
by Ferry Man
One of the faults to look out for is corrosion in the front & rear window apertures.
This is an affliction that curses all 993's. If you see a bubble in the screen corners there is a whole heap of trouble brewing under those rubbers...
My car was good. Or had once been bad.
It turns out the fronts had already been repaired. And - I have to say - repaired very thoroughly and very well. So that was nice.
However, there was rust in one of the rear screen edges.
I felt it was likely only surface rust but I had it blasted anyway. It hadn't perforated but Sam (at Early911) wasn't taking chances and cut it out and let fresh metal in.
Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:05 pm
by Ferry Man
Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:06 pm
by Ferry Man
Just one troublesome spot on the rear.

Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:11 pm
by Ferry Man
My reckoning was that for a colour change I'd want it done thoroughly.
So, obviously no sign of the original colour in the door shuts.
But also none in the engine compartment, front trunk, under arches, etc, etc.
Now that does mean a lot of work. Much more work that I realised.
These cars are much more complex than an early 911. There was to be a lot to be removed.

Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:16 pm
by Ferry Man
My aspiration was to completely restore the car to as new.
So, each component I removed I would clean, or repaint, or recondition, or refurbish so it was like new. In some cases that might mean replace with new.
Certainly things like seals and rubbers I just purchased brand new from my local OPC. After 25 years it was invariably perished or hard, so replacement was the best course.

Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:22 pm
by Ferry Man
As I dismantled the car I took photos. I needed to remember how it went back together.
I ended up with over 1,500 images and I could have done with more.
But usually the PET tells you the story. I certainly know my way around a 993 now.
I also took care to bag and label everything as I went. I bought 500 grip-seal bags on eBay and I bought a load of cheap storage boxes from Ikea.
A 911 takes up a lot of room when dismantled.

Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:55 am
by 911hillclimber
Interesting to be the 'anatomy' of a 993, so similar to the early 911 (so far).
Great refreshing thread!

Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:07 am
by Tp81
This is moving at a pace! Rubber seals are not cheap, I tend to change these out on cars I have had, not cheap! Nothing with Porsche on it seems to be.
Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:15 am
by mycar
Agreed. I would have got to the rubber seal stage and called it a day.
Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:37 pm
by Ferry Man
Tp81 wrote:not cheap! Nothing with Porsche on it seems to be.
I'm spending too much with Porsche again. And the prices are constantly being increased.
Now, it's their business and they evidently run it well. Charging as much as you can is understandable.
But even I'm tiring of it.
I baulked at £320 + VAT for a headliner. But I paid it.
Now that's a lot of money for not a lot of fabric. However - unlike the early 911's - cheaper copies aren't easy to source for the 993.
But when it arrived I only had the main headliner, the second panel (for the insert) was missing.
Upon quizzing my OPC it turned out the sliding panel was listed separately with a different part number, another £170 + VAT. And that piece of fabric is tiny!
Now that seems like profiteering to me.
So, I have purchased some reproduction parts. Door seals for instance. And very good they seem to be (I'm not finished yet, so I'll reserve judgement).
The Porsche door seals were something like £335 each side, the copies less than half the price.
So, in summary, 90% of what I've bought is genuine Porsche but I now don't discount buying unbranded. Otherwise Porsche will just keep ramping up their margins....
Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:40 pm
by Ferry Man
As the bumpers & wings & doors & bonnet came off I cleaned them as best I could and stacked them up ready for paint.

Re: 993 restoration
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:41 pm
by Ferry Man