Okrasa Special

Lightweight_911 · Post by **Lightweight_911** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:12 pm

I think that's great - they're obviously keen to be involved !

Pandora · Post by **Pandora** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:06 am

I'll admit to having done something similar, but to myself!

I had drawn a tape line section on a sheet of MDF, but despite hunting high and low, couldn't find it anywhere in the workshop.

Later, when I looked at the other side of the buck...... there was half of the missing tape line- cut up when I drew another section on the other side of the same sheet!

Doh!

Always keep your scrap seperate, and your work the right way up!

sladey · Post by **sladey** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:57 am

I made some patio doors a few year ago. From painful experience I labelled every single piece at the top, bottom, left, right, front and back

johnM · Post by **johnM** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:23 pm

Did you see Top Gear testing the special the other night?

Macaulay · Post by **Macaulay** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:48 pm

Gobsmacking work Barry!
Reading this is much like trying to solve the Rubiks Cube thingy for me,
very complicated, infact I never did it (not counting the time I removed
the bits and put it back together the right way).
But you seem to be in control of it all and it realy looks like it's comming together.
Another thing I start to relize is how much work it realy is to make something like this,
I knew it was lot's but when seeing it in progression it realy is LOT'S!

Keep on rolling!

(Love your specialized box of goodies btw!)

Barry · Post by **Barry** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:00 pm

Funnily enough, I've just got back from there this evening, as we had a cheeky 'wheel it outside and see what it looks like' session. A couple of hours well spent.

I'll post up some pics at some point (not tonight though), suffice to say we're delighted with the look, other than the possibility of having a bit of a tweak around the kamm area. It might well be like a lot of the rest of the car, where we fiddle around with it, and end up back where we started. Nevertheless, I for one, would rather go through that process and know that we've tried it, as opposed to always wondering if we should have tried a different option.

Good stuff though, a real giggle watching Steve trying to climb in through the side window. I can see why he failed that Duke's of Hazzard screen test now ....

911hillclimber · Post by **911hillclimber** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:16 pm

I think I've lost track to where you are with the buck now Barry.

Have you built-up all the formers across all the car now so you can start all that rolling to the profiles? I expect if you have then you couln't roll the car out for a fitting of the non athletic driver!

Look forward to those 'cheeky' pics!

Barry · Post by **Barry** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:56 pm

Hi Graham, no, as far as building is concerned, the recent pics are up to date.

I suggested to Steve that before I removed a sizable chunk of the wireform to make way for the wooden egg-crate jig, that we wheel the car outside to give it a final looking at.

As it happened, by time Steve had got some family / work commitments out of the way, and I had recovered from my man-flu, we only got up there last night.

By and large, we're very happy indeed, but I do have a niggle about the rear. The front, front three quarter, side and to a degree, the rear three quarter are all fine, but the dead-on rear view is lacking a certain something. Ironic, given that in the early days this was the part that seemed to fall into place easy-peasy. Where it has been in the workshop has meant that we haven't had the opportunity to look at the rear as we did last night, so frustrating in one way (as it looks as though there's some tweakage due), brilliant in others (i.e. the front and side views), and very much worthwhile.

As I've said before, I'd (we'd) much rather keep chipping away at the shape until we've got it cock-on, rather than ploughing in then regetting it later on. I'm rather hoping that Steve comes up with a magic-bullet tweak as he did with the bonnet height all that time ago.

As you can imagine, I very much feel the need to make some shapes in some metal, but at the same time, need to know we're heading the right direction.

So I guess we'll have a ponder, go back over a load of reference images, and come up with some tweaks. Trouble is I can't put the wooden buck onto the car until the shape is resolved, as once on, we won't be able to roll the car outside any more.

Overall though, we're very, very nearly there with this stage, and the sight of the car peeking out from the workshop last night was something else: after struggling a bit with the front end shape, it's now ended up looking wonderful (I can say that I think, since it's Macaulay and Steve that came up with it). We had to keep reminding ourselves that we were viewing it in bits of paper, wire and masking tape, and that later on (all being well), it would be in metal, with headlights, grills, badges etc all lending a real period feel to the thing.

Sorry about the lack of pics: working on a certain 2.2E 'til late, so worn out

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911hillclimber · Post by **911hillclimber** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:30 am

It must all be hard work!
Working in alum instead of steel will certainly feel strange at first i imagine.

The shapes are all important and many a design has a 'bad point of view' except possibly a 911....or a 904.

I particularly look forward to the skin but also the way you will attach together the parts to the chassis and the return edges, the functioning aspects of the body for a road car.

To the rear, I imaginge it is hard not to clutter the appearance with engine slots for cooling/exhaust as well as lights/number plate.

going to be interesting!

steve wright · Post by **steve wright** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:47 am

I have to say it was exciting getting the car out - Barry and I were like two small boys with a new toy. 99% of the car looks fantastic to my eye and I’d be thrilled to build it just as it is, but… as Barry says it’s amazing front on, the side-on view is great, from the rear three quarter it looks really, really good, and virtually all the way around to the rear is lovely, but the moment you’re square on, I feel like asking the question “does my bum looks small in this”? It’s the equivalent of your other half asking the perennial question and I’m loath to open a can of worms as the design is almost finished, but when we got the car out into the sunlight and we were able to stand away some distance from it, the rear just didn’t look right. It’s not helped by the rear being raised on the springs (we’ve lowered the front 3 inches remember by fitting the adjusters) and the old narrow Michelin tyres that came with the date matched 356 rims (thanks Paul at PRS Services for the rims!) rather than the slightly wider radials ones I threw on the car, but somehow the rear looks to feminine. I’m sure it’s going to be like the front, where all it required was a one inch tweak, but it’s ironic that so much angst went into the front to get it right, when we thought the rear was done, when in reality it’s not. I'll try and post pictures today, grappling with setting up an iPhone (I may just be the only person in history to return an iPhone through inability to drive it). Views and insight appreciated. Cheers, Steve

Barry · Post by **Barry** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:09 pm

Right, a very quick post up of some pictures, I won't comment now as I've only got a minute:

Barry · Post by **Barry** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:13 pm

Obviously it doesn't help that we threw on the paper around the rear at the last moment, and ran out of tape as we were doing it. Also the rear is all a bit 'approx' as well, so just having the shape dead even, and the lights on in the same place will improve things, but that's what we said about the front and it still ended up being tweaked very successfully.

Very much open to suggestions, and in particular, examples in period of solutions to this area.

I did wonder if the 'problem' if we can call it that, actually stems from further forward, but the side view towards the rear looks fine, quite good in fact (i.e. as though you were looking at the rear wheel square-on.

Anyway, something's not right, and I for one would appreciate ideas / inspiration. A bit frustrating really, as I think the method for the wire and the egg-crate jig is quite well sorted now, just need to know what shape to do

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Many thanks folks, I'd better dive back into the workshop ....

Barry · Post by **Barry** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:16 pm

Oh yes, Steve's holding a board because we wanted to see if it was the thin tyres and ride height making it look off. It wasn't: try it on your monitor with a sheet of paper. Better, but still not there?

Ren · Post by **Ren** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:28 pm

tim78 · Post by **tim78** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:31 pm

My first thought was longer and lower?