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Re: Back in beige

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:21 am
by jamie
I think the repro heater tubes are brand new on the market. You can really see why Porsche went to the cheaper, lighter version in the later cars.

The rusty one that came out the car was weird - looked fine, but collapsed in my hands. I think it was very gradually rotting from the inside-out.

Hopefully next set of pictures should either be a completed shell, or a completed engine :)

Still staring into the abyss with regards to paint...

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:29 am
by KS
Fantastic work, Jamie! Barry is a bit good, isn't he?

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:07 pm
by 964RS
coming along great Jamie...

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:02 am
by Darren65
jamie wrote: Still staring into the abyss with regards to paint...
I've PM'd you a couple of suggestions.

Cheers,

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:22 pm
by Rocket
Who is this Barry guy, like to meet him.
Great thread Jamie, once I started I had to see it to the end, just love this work, miles better than telly..
Ron

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:11 pm
by 911hillclimber
'Barry' is a pro body shell builder on DDK, one of the early members.
Restores good, bad, very evil shells to as new condition to legendary quality levels.
Famous for letting in patches large and small invisibly and giving the painter very little to do when prepping for paint.

The above is probably an understatement of his skills, but a master craftsman who shares all the details with the customer and us, his gob-smacked audience, to our benefit and education.

Indeed, better than tele!

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:39 pm
by Darren65
911hillclimber wrote: Famous for letting in patches large and small invisibly and giving the painter very little to do when prepping for paint.
That's right, a quick once over with aerosol and your ready for Pebble Beach! :wink:

If you like Barry's work this lot will keep you busy….

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Quite a guy! :notworthy:


Sorry for the thread hijack Jamie.

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:19 pm
by 911hillclimber
4th one down must be the best rescue?

Barry, This is your Life on one page in DDK!

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:48 am
by Bez1
Looking good James. Good us updated please!

Agree that the 4th thread is UNBELIEVABLE!

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:03 pm
by Barry
:oops:

Most people have photo albums of their kids. I have a list on DDK.

Wouldn't have it any other way :) .

Jamie has just left with a little something in the back of a van .... nice working with you Jamie, hope you're happy with it, and best wishes for the next stages 8) . Cool car indeed.

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:03 pm
by jamie
Barry wrote:Jamie has just left with a little something in the back of a van
I have. But first,here are the last bits of work Barry carried-out on the shell...

New kidney bowl and outer sill on the offside, plus a kidney bowl repair and new outer to the nearside:

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Re: Back in beige

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:12 pm
by jamie
Before the shell went to Barry, I cut the bottom of my rear wings off to expose the kidney bowls and to get to the rear outer sills. I didn't cut them in the correct place, and Barry wasn't happy as chopping them this way can cause warping problems when they are re-attached. Much better to chop them another way. Luckily he did a very nice job of putting them back on. I still don't know where I should have cut them.

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Re: Back in beige

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:17 pm
by jamie
Lastly, the rear seat pans. A big job. Replacement panels are £366 each from Bray. Or you can (get Barry to) make them yourself...

Make a tool for forming the indentations:

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Use it:

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Take one last look at this disaster area:

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Bish, bash...

Bosh:

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Re: Back in beige

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:07 am
by jamie
After three-and-a-bit months, many email exchanges, long phone calls, and bank transfers, Barry had completed his work on the shell.

As the roads a salty at the moment, I opted to rent and enclosed Renault Trucksmith Loloader (http://www.loloader.co.uk) from my local Kendall van rental.

First I had to stop by Jonny Hart's place and pick-up the dolly that I had bought from him.

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Here he is with the dolly. Ye Olde Dolly of Ages - an ancient artefact, steeped in DDK lore, which has been passed from generation to generation of restored 911 over the years.

Jonny showed me his beautiful resto-rod SC, plus some clever electronic stuff he is working on for IB cars. If you have an IB car, he should have some irresistibly cool things available in the near future.

Dolly loaded, and with a family lunch deadline to meet, it was time to utilised the special time-travelling capabilities only found in a Rented White Van.

As found on arrival. Fresh!

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Off the jig, using Barry's patented method, and onto its new wheels:

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At this point I had the same mesmerised, can't-quite-believe-this-is-my-car feeling that I get when I look at the work that Dude has done on the engine. I had been worried about a few things, namely whether I should really be spending all this money on 'just' a 912, and also whether the shell had gone rusty in the year that it had been sitting around, stripped of its paint.

If you look at some of Barry's photos from earlier in the thread, you will see the shell looking pretty grotty and brown. Enviro-Strip had coated the car with a water-dispersant wash after it was dipped, and I was worried it had rubbed off, or evaporated. Anyway, it turns out the grottiness was simply surface rust, which wipes off, with a bit of POR-15 Metal Prep, to leave beautiful clean metal underneath. This revelation was a huge weight off my shoulders and made me very happy.

The money thing is a bit more complicated, but essentially boils-down to "do it once, do it right". I could do it myself, but it wouldn't be right. I could find someone to do it cheap, but it wouldn't be right. I've shipped the thing half way around the world. It has to be right. I really don't want a rusty car.

Anyway, I still had to get home for that lunch, so up into the truck for the obligatory I'm-not-bloody-smiling shot of Barry stood next to his masterpiece:

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Re: Back in beige

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:14 am
by KS
Wow!!! 8)