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Re: The cost of filling up your car .

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:26 pm
by 210bhp
Winston Teague wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:31 pm
210bhp wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:30 pm C
Scotland seems to be ahead of the game at this point but how long free charging will last is anybody’s guess. So far so good.

Regards
Mike

So Scotland is giving away free fuel......FFFS WHY?

W
I would imagine a strategy along with a few other carrots the SNP offer, free or low cost nursing home care, free eye tests, free prescriptions, free university tuition fees, free bus travel for over 60’s, subsidized rail travel,etc etc to gain those few extra votes for independence (when it happens again) which they will need because the division is so close, about 50/50. Anything which suggests Scotland is ‘better’ than the rest of the UK is a small lever when all added together (covering all age groups) that might just tip the balance their way come the vote.

Regards
Mike

Re: The cost of filling up your car .

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:18 pm
by MarkIII
210bhp wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:26 pm
Winston Teague wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:31 pm
210bhp wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:30 pm C
Scotland seems to be ahead of the game at this point but how long free charging will last is anybody’s guess. So far so good.

Regards
Mike

So Scotland is giving away free fuel......FFFS WHY?

W
I would imagine a strategy along with a few other carrots the SNP offer, free or low cost nursing home care, free eye tests, free prescriptions, free university tuition fees, free bus travel for over 60’s, subsidized rail travel,etc etc to gain those few extra votes for independence (when it happens again) which they will need because the division is so close, about 50/50. Anything which suggests Scotland is ‘better’ than the rest of the UK is a small lever when all added together (covering all age groups) that might just tip the balance their way come the vote.

Regards
Mike
Interesed to see how Scotland will be able to continue to subsidise and give away free stuff if and when they are independent......

Re: The cost of filling up your car ...

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:28 pm
by misteralz
Scotland has enough energy to power itself about twenty times over, but that's irrelevant when yeah, it's not going to be a real country any time in the next twenty years.

Re: The cost of filling up your car ...

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:52 pm
by RobFrost
I'm curious how the Nationalists think Scotland can maintain peace with England when we were at constant war for centuries before the union.

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Re: The cost of filling up your car ...

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:37 pm
by Nine One One
So if you drive an electric car from 2025 VED is £165, those electric cars costing over £40K (most of them) will pay £520 year VED (this is for all EV’s registered after 2017)
But if you own a zero rated petrol or diesel vehicle rated at Zero at present, you pay the massive sum of £20 for your VED from 2025...........utter bloody madness.

Re: The cost of filling up your car ...

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:39 pm
by RobFrost
I guess the petrol or diesel vehicles will be paying tax on fuel whereas electric don't.

Re: The cost of filling up your car ...

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:05 pm
by KS
Reminds me, my zero-rate Golf tdi needs taxing at the end of the month.

Re: The cost of filling up your car ...

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:31 pm
by DustyM
What was/is the criteria for a zero rated petrol or Diesel car?


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Re: The cost of filling up your car ...

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:08 pm
by Cortina
DustyM wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:31 pm What was/is the criteria for a zero rated petrol or Diesel car?


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Low emissions , for cars of a certain age (g/km sub 100 , and reg 2013 for example - from personal experience (1.1 diesel Hyundai i20))

Re: The cost of filling up your car ...

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:39 am
by KS
My Golf Bluemotion 1.6 tdi was registered in June 2016 and has CO2 emissions of 92g/km, so zero road tax. My wife's 2.0 tdi Skoda Yeti was registered in November 2015 and has CO2 emissions of 118g/km, and costs £30 a year. An EV is not an option - we have no way to charge at the house (no parking facility) and there are no EV charging points at Sarah's place of work. There are two EV charging points in our little town - one at a pub, which is out or order, the other for the use of hotel guests. The next nearest are 3-4 miles away in Bodmin. Of the seven there, three are currently out of order and two are on industrial estates out of town (edit: one of those is now out of order). Another which is working is at council offices 20-30 minutes walk from the shops.

Re: The cost of filling up your car ...

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:22 am
by 911hillclimber
What is the 'failure mode' of these Out of Order charge points?

Re: The cost of filling up your car ...

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:27 am
by RobFrost
In Lichfield you get free charging all day every day in the council car park, worth £35, provided you pay to park - which is £1 on a Sunday.

Re: The cost of filling up your car ...

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:47 am
by KS
911hillclimber wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:22 am What is the 'failure mode' of these Out of Order charge points?
I have no idea - I know one of the ones in Bodmin wouldn't accept payment...

Re: The cost of filling up your car ...

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:36 am
by hot66
911hillclimber wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:22 am What is the 'failure mode' of these Out of Order charge points?
could be anything :
doesnt communicate with car
wont take payment]
damaged plug
software problems etc

Re: The cost of filling up your car ...

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:44 am
by hot66
update on ours , wife has had it a month and done around 3000 miles ! with no problems at all . Always plugged in at home during the day and always kept at 100% as thats what she wants . Absolutly no idea on how much its costing us to charge at home ! .. I'm ok with this as the leccy bill comes out of her account :lol:

She's only used public chargers on the trip to cambridge and the other day in Tesco just because she wanted too . Seems to be an EV community at these charge points , she got chatting to a guy at Tescos who was telling her even though tesco now charges £0.22 / KWh its still cheaper than charging at home with the new energy cap of £0.34??

Either way, its quite a nice car to drive about in and even I enjoy it for the mundane stuff.