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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:43 pm
by Ian Donkin
impmad2000 wrote: Perhaps Ian can help with this one... don't the early CIS heads have a cutout for the injector as the injector sits much lower down... a la MFI ?
In which case pehaps the heads have been changed too ? I'm not sure on this one, just a nagging doubt I have....
Cheers
Tim
If you carry on, I'll have to go and take a picture!

73.5T CIS engine, injectors directly into head a la MFI cars. 74 onwards, injectors moved into manifolds.

Whatever the rest of the cars background, it's certainly not a standard engine and as has been stated elsewhere in this thread, to go back to MFI will not be cheap at all.

Buyer beware.

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:56 pm
by coolaking
I have a big hi res pic of the engine but cant really post it in muchos perhaps this may help a bit to identify engine

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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:58 pm
by coolaking
regarding this engine number which has been supplied,

6330751

I cant find a web site to reference this, does this seem ok on paper

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:09 pm
by Lightweight_911
That is the correct engine number for a '73 2.4S

It is also in the right range of numbers to match the VIN:

911 330 0453 has engine no. 633 0696

911 330 0511 has engine no. 633 0787

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:44 pm
by coolaking
cheers andy

I have 300 dpi pics of this car which are obviously much bigger and the car itself looks much better than the distorted jpegs that are on here from muchos

the guy who has sourced the car for me is asking about the cis etc from the guy who is selling it, so I'll keep you informed but any more info appreciated

the price is a lot less than the 55k mentioned above for the rebuilt 2.7 clone

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:46 pm
by 1972_911t
Isnt the oil pressure switch also in the wrong place for a 2.4? didnt they have them at the side of the thermostat?

Steve

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:01 pm
by Gilbert '71 T
coolaking wrote:I have sent the pics to afriend of mine at a respected porsche independent and he says it looks like an SC engine???
When I first saw the picture that's exactly what I thought it was, same colour shroud, same CIS but with backdated heat and possibly an earlier 11 blade fan, the pulley changed around 1980 I think.

I agree with everyone else there's something not right with it, I would want to see some build specs on that for sure as I don't see how an SC CIS system will work successfully on 2.4S heads.

Good luck.

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:06 pm
by 210bhp
coolaking wrote: the price is a lot less than the 55k mentioned above for the rebuilt 2.7 clone
The car was not an rs clone. Standard 2.4s body with exception of the flared rear arches (i.e. no rs front and rear bumpers and no ducktail)

I would be very careful. There do not seem to be any good 2.4s cars which are cheap. $55k equates to about £28950. Ask James(Hot 66) if he would let his beautiful lhd light yellow car go for that. I already know the answer.

Regards
Mike

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:28 pm
by coolaking
I was intimating that this car may not be as good as the one you saw (even with correct engine) as it is cheaper

but dont forget you have to add the shipping (£1.5k) and 17.5% of cost of car + shipping plus work to make it uk legal so £29k qucikly becomes £37k which I still think is high price for lhd 2.4s or am I out of touch on prices??

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:35 pm
by 210bhp
The most recent ads I've seen of 2.4s cars without any questions and in top condition are
LHD £35 to £40k
RHD £40 to $55k

These are advertised prices and have increased over the last 12 months dramatically. The next 12 months may be a different matter.

Regards
Mike

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:07 pm
by 210bhp
Just posted


http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12226

And this car need work according to Autofarm

Regards
Mike

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:38 pm
by butzsi
Hi, looks like the engine has been replaced with a 2.4 CIS (T) or a 2.7 CIS (Sor L) but has had the 2.4S shroud retained, the kjet engines had either black or green shrouds - A mehanical inj engine wil not work with CIS.

Chris

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:54 am
by Nick Moss
If they have swapped bits around then the red MFI shroud will have cutouts for the injectors which would have been in the heads.

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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:41 pm
by coolaking
heres some more pics, do they shed anymore light??

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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:59 pm
by Nick Moss
The plot thickens

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It definitely has an MFI shroud, could that be a plug in the old injection port?

He has a good camera so get him to send a picture of the engine number and type

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