DDK - Die Deutschen Klassiker

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The Kremer 917 didn't break the bank at Monte Carlo selling for €2.35m, €2.65m with buyer's premium against estimate €3.5m - €5m

Bob Wollek later revealed he walked out on the Kremer brothers during the '81 Le Mans following 2 fatal incidents and having started the weekend with a bad omen about the race. With fewer than 24 race hours the steering on the car broke at its next outing at Brands

Wollek died 20 years later, hit by a van while cycling back to his accommodation from practice for the Sebring 12. After Sebring he was due to retire from racing and take a role as Porsche brand ambassador



Group B 924 GTS CS was a no sale at €160k, now asking €200k



Dan Herman SCCA Carrera Speedster 81079 bid to €750k against an estimate €850 - 950k, now asking €850k

Is that a Morgan behind it and if so, I wonder where it is and what it would sell for today?

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RobFrost wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 2:38 pm Is that a Morgan behind it and if so, I wonder where it is and what it would sell for today?

I'd say that's probably Lew Spencer racing his Plus 4 - 'Baby Doll'.

He competed in the SCCA championship for several years & won the championship in the early '60's .

Later he went to work for Caroll Shelby during the era when the Cobra was being developed.

One of his Morgan racers came up for auction at Scottsdale ~ 10 years ago - sold for comparatively little (at least compared to a 356 Speedster) as far as I remember ...

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Found the auction - it was 2015 - the Morgan sold for $99k :


https://www.goodingco.com/lot/1959-morg ... ghtweight/

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Imagine lying awake worrying about woodworm rather than tinworm

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- never liked them ... I used to think that the suspension on my old Grantura was hard until I drove a Morgan !


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https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... id=1&pid=8

What do we make of this - looks stunning to me but I am not an expert!

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It's been for sale for a while - seem to remember Paul Stephens listed it back at the beginning of the year.

Just goes to show how much money you can lose when you give specialists 'carte blanche' to build you a car with an 'open chequebook' approach !!

For reference, this is how the car looked in its previous guise:

The costs detailed are a real sobering tale. Just all feels excessive and more to me.
That aside, sure looks good!

Lightweight_911 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 6:35 pm .

It's been for sale for a while - seem to remember Paul Stephens listed it back at the beginning of the year.

Just goes to show how much money you can lose when you give specialists 'carte blanche' to build you a car with an 'open chequebook' approach !!

For reference, this is how the car looked in its previous guise:

Aaah. I knew I recognised that reg number. Prior to that pic it was a perfectly tidy yellow RS rep that belonged to Miles5 on here.

£150k spent on a bare rebuild isn’t outrageous by any stretch, the problem comes when you do it on an already good car you’ve bought for £125k.

And they put our air con condenser in the frunk?

joelhopwood1976 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 5:06 pm https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... id=1&pid=8

What do we make of this - looks stunning to me but I am not an expert!

looks lovely although the oil cooler next to the petrol tank is an interesting feature.

The S/T rep is like cat nip for early Porsche lovers. But I have a harness and a seatbelt in my backdate and I almost always find myself reaching for the convenience and simplicity of the seatbelt. On that basis I think I'd tire of a fully roll caged car with harnesses, fire extinguishers etc., highly strung engine, and deafening exhaust, for road use. For track use or sprinting the sheer laryness of it would be fun, but then do you want air con for that? Im not sure this car sits well in any niche.

RobFrost wrote: looks lovely although the oil cooler next to the petrol tank is an interesting feature.

That’s the AC condenser that Jonny is talking about

RobFrost wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 12:04 pm ... I think I'd tire of a fully roll caged car with harnesses, fire extinguishers etc., highly strung engine, and deafening exhaust, for road use.

Sounds ideal to me !

The most enjoyment I get from driving a car is one that has no creature comforts (apart from a comfortable/supportive seat) & dispenses with anything superfluous that adds unnecessary weight (& that extends to any form of cupholder !!).

However, the enjoyment is heightened significantly if the final spec is achieved at what I consider to be a (comparatively) sensible cost ...

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RobFrost wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 12:04 pm

joelhopwood1976 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 5:06 pm https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... id=1&pid=8

What do we make of this - looks stunning to me but I am not an expert!

looks lovely although the oil cooler next to the petrol tank is an interesting feature.

The S/T rep is like cat nip for early Porsche lovers. But I have a harness and a seatbelt in my backdate and I almost always find myself reaching for the convenience and simplicity of the seatbelt. On that basis I think I'd tire of a fully roll caged car with harnesses, fire extinguishers etc., highly strung engine, and deafening exhaust, for road use. For track use or sprinting the sheer laryness of it would be fun, but then do you want air con for that? Im not sure this car sits well in any niche.

I'm with Rob here- my Jaffa 911 is much as described - I love it , but do find it tough on longer trips the older I get. I did two six hour days last weekend and felt very tired. Consequently we are building a cruiser 911.......................,