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Re: Back in beige

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:20 am
by Lightweight_911
Love those 2 shots ...

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:09 pm
by jamie
Been ignoring the car of late due to work on the house. The past few weeks has been spent on the living room - plasterer in, paint, then sanding and repairing 40sqm of 50-year-old parquet. This was a bitch. With the rest of the house jammed up with sofas and other large bits of furniture, I decided it was the perfect time to take the engine over to The Dude for compression and leakdown on his test bench. He likes to do these tests first to understand the condition of the engine before splitting the case.

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This brought a tear to The Dude's eye. Silicone sealant on cylinders three and four:

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Afterwards, I drove over to another friend's workshop (where I stored the 912 after it arrived from the US), to find him working on KS's old car:

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The frames you can see hanging from the racking in the right background of the photo are stainless steel 911 luggage racks he is currently building. They should be nice.

Anyway, the tests showed compressions at 80psi on 1, 3 and 4, and 65psi on cylinder 2. The leakdown test revealed leak on the inlet valve of cylinder 2. We measured the end float at .015", which is quite a bit over the wear limit of .0087, but not as bad as I had previously thought.

He also suspected the cylinders may not be original - possibly big bore kit in situ. If this is the case, that would be some excellent luck as I'd like to fit oversize pistons, and this would save some machining cost.

I've left the engine with him to tear down at his leisure.

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:15 pm
by jamie
The Dude also told me that my 009 distributor was a crock of shite with the sort of advance curve commonly found on a ditch pump. Looks like I need to replace it with a 022, 031 or RS0012. Mo' money, mo' problems.

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Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:20 pm
by Lightweight_911
There's an '031' & an 'RSR 012' currently for sale in the Classifieds:

http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewto ... =5&t=45380

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:51 pm
by shoestring7
jamie wrote:Hello JG!

Took some pictures of the shell this evening.

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Great house! Looks like late 60's/early 70's; they are growing in popularity on a general re-evaluation of modernisms, and as people find they prefer the large windows and open plan living rooms to modern places with their tiny openings and minute floor areas.

>C

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:11 pm
by jamie
Thanks. Yes, 1965 / 66 build. Most would say it is ugly, but I love it.

Andy - Classic Speed Parts in the US do an RS0012 for £170 new. Do you know anything about that operation?

Jamie

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:23 pm
by Lightweight_911
Jamie - I've bought quite a few bits from CSP over the years - always good value & good service.

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:04 pm
by jamie
Good stuff. Thanks Andy :)

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:56 pm
by jamie
Latest news from Dude HQ - engine down to long block. Lots of stray silicone sealant bits inside. Pistons and barrels are 86mm, giving 1760cc vs stock 1600, although he reckons in current condition it would have been making about 50% power. It did drive like crap on the run from San Francisco to LA.

Next engine news should contain info about the condition of crank. Terrified...

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:06 am
by shoestring7
jamie wrote:Thanks. Yes, 1965 / 66 build. Most would say it is ugly, but I love it.
Jamie
Many said the same of my old place:
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Built in 1963 as it happens.

>C

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:06 pm
by jamie
Holy crap that is awesome. You still have it?

I bet you would beat me at heating bills top trumps...

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:07 pm
by shoestring7
jamie wrote:Holy crap that is awesome. You still have it?

I bet you would beat me at heating bills top trumps...
Sadly no. The house is one of three built in Holyport (nr Maidenhead) by two young architect, Peter Foggo and David Thomas, who were influenced by what was happening in places like New Canaan CT. The first Mrs SS7 and I sold it to an antiques dealer who knocked on the door and offered a bag of gold. Mid-Century modernist houses were a sellers market, even 6 years ago.

The rear elevation is also 7' x 7 panels of single pane plate glass, so it wasn't exactly an eco home. I've PTSD'd the heating bills from my memory, there was a huge boiler that pumped hot air around ducting under the floor and latterly a big log burner.

More pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37571417@N ... 351184731/

>C

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:13 pm
by Edomatic
My Dad was a builder/roofer and these modernist type of houses were like gold to him with constant repair, with leaky flat roofs, rotten wooden walls and general poor materials that did not last.
The design intent was good and looked well when new, but the materials used were just not up to the job...
If the same house was built today using modern building codes and materials, they would still look cutting edge and be eco friendly...

Back to the thread! Like your 912 rebuild Jamie!

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:54 pm
by jamie
Sweet bejesus Shoestring - that place is fantastic. I will post some shots of mine at some point. It's a lot more conservative, but features some good, original 60s bits (and a lot of the materials that Eddie mentions above). It also has the same ducted air heating sytem - ours is an incredibly efficient at turning gas into noise and dust.

As Eddie said, it'd be interesting if someone built one to resto-mod spec with proper insulation and ecologically sound heating.

Back to Porsches. A day of ups and downs. Many weeks ago, when I dropped my shell at Enviro-Strip, I had neglected to bring the doors, bonnet and decklid as I was under the impression that these weren't included in the job. Turns out it's all part of the service. So I dropped those panels off when I went up to collect the shell.

Today an Enviro-Strip truck was making a trip to McLaren (down the road, in Woking), so they put my panels on board and I met the driver on site. What I found, I could never have expected - they are awesome - no rust or scabbiness whatsoever, just crisp lines. OK, there is some evidence of dent removal, but it appears to have been done properly with a dent puller and file. Must be the only car in America not to have been repaired with bondo. I couldn't believe my luck.

Overjoyed, I headed home, stopping by Dude HQ to catch up on engine news. Things there not so sweet - too much info for me to remember, but basically the inside of the heads have been reworked with a pickaxe and the crank is into its second grind. Dude analysis goes that the head work may be as a result of no.1 piston letting go. There are some clues, such as this big 'fix this one' arrow, and the chunk taken out of the crankcase inside:

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Damn!

The rods have been ground down - maybe balanced, maybe just ground. We'll find out in due course, although who really cares - I think they're going in the bin:

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F****** silicone everywhere. This photo shows a rare piece still attached to the case (as opposed to sitting in the oil strainer with the rest):

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Crank. Hopefully this will polish - Dude says third grinds are bad juju.

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El Cheapo overbore kit - probably fitted because it was cheaper than replacing the stock barrels and pistons:

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Can't remember why I took this, but there's something crap going on here, too:

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At first glance, the carbs are the correct size for the engine. Dude reports, however, that there are 20-something mm throats fitted inside - I won't say the numbers, because I got the displacement of the engine wrong by 40.4cc a few posts back and he sent me a text about it. The narrowed-down venturis would have been strangling the engine. You can't see them in this photo because I took it with the butterflies shut (dork):

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Re: Back in beige

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:51 am
by haasad
Jamie, surely not too bad...the heads look like they'll go again even if they need weld and repair before new seats and guides. Normal rebuild stuff really. Aren't those cylinders boreable ? If so its a crank, which I think you may have half expected, and a set of rods over and above the usual ,
(so far). It'll all come together.....

Andy