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Re: Back in beige
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:45 am
by Darren65
Sounds pretty cool to me

Re: Back in beige
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:03 pm
by AndrewSlater
It is all looking excellent - well done.
Can you say what the Enviro-Strip bill was?
I thought they were reasonably priced but you made it sound more expensive than I thought.
Regards
Andrew
Re: Back in beige
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:39 am
by jamie
Hi Andrew. Relative to the other options available, it was actually very reasonable. The quotes I received for Walnut and Soda blasting were higher, and neither of these methods will remove underseal. Acid dipping came out much much more expensive, and I didn't like what I had been hearing lately about acid remaining trapped in the seams. A work colleague had an E30 shell media blasted somewhere else and they didn't remove paint in hard to reach areas like under the dash, corners of wheel arches etc. I've checked my shell over and I can't find one place they've missed - it's a superb job.
If I implied that it was a lot of money, it's because it was (to me, at least). Disengaging our enthusiasm for old cars for a moment, dropping the best part of a grand into removing the paint from a rusty, inefficient, unsafe old car is the sort of thing you could never justify to the average person on the street. Or 90% of the owners of 'other' classic cars. Interestingly, the owner of Enviro Strip said that old Porsche accounts for the vast majority of their business.
For me however, it seems like a brilliant deal.
Re: Back in beige
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:44 am
by Gary71
jamie wrote:dropping the best part of a grand into removing the paint
Seems like a good price. If you think of the hours you would have to put in yourself with heat guns, scrapers sanding discs and the like it is the way to do it.
The Enviro-Strip trucks are often seen going in and out of Bentley so I guess they keep our body paint fixtures clean by the same method.
Re: Back in beige
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:06 pm
by jamie
Yep - I think they mostly do contract work for manufacturing. It's a big operation, occupying warehouses all down the road.
Re: Back in beige
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:11 pm
by 911hillclimber
A wise investment imho.
Wish i had done the same way way back.
Re: Back in beige
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:48 pm
by jamie
Bit of welding today. Got a cold, so shouldn't really have been outside. Filled up the 1968 reflector holes in the rear wings and closed the near-side inner sill, having emptied half a can of high temp zinc primer into the cavity first.
I went over the engine bay with panel wipe, then zapped it with Eastwood self-etching primer. It seemed very very thin. Then it dried and started flaking off. WHAT THE F****** F***? I spent the next hour rubbing the bay back down to (semi) bare metal. Did Porsche put all those sharp metal clips in there as traps for future restorers? Much blood.
So I resoaked the shell with phosphate anti-rust and pushed it back into the corner of the garage. This is a job for someone else - I'm not a bodywork kind of person.
Re: Back in beige
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:59 am
by AndrewSlater
Hi James, thanks for sharing the stripping costs.
Do Envirostrip not etch prime the car after stripping or is this an additional cost?
As for the Eatwood products despite the claims I never found any of them that worked at all well on my resto.
Sounds like one of those days you put a lot of effort in only to go slightly backwards - but don't fear it will get there in the end.
Keep up the good work.
All the best
Andrew
Re: Back in beige
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:21 pm
by jamie
Hi Andrew. Enviro-Strip can prime, but Barry recommended to have shell delivered bare in order that I could see everything bit of paint and rust had been removed properly. He told me he has seen -other- operations do half-arsed jobs, then cover it up with paint.
Re: Back in beige
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:26 pm
by Mitch
jamie wrote:This is a job for someone else - I'm not a bodywork kind of person.
Maybe but look at what what you've tackled so far... great work. And waaay more than most people, like me
Remember, the future belongs to those still willing to get their hands dirty. Pass the swarfega

Re: Back in beige
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:45 pm
by johndglynn
jamie wrote:This is a job for someone else - I'm not a bodywork kind of person.
Au contraire - you're not one to miss some decent bodywork.
I like Beigey's new look

Re: Back in beige
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:42 pm
by jamie
Hello JG!
Took some pictures of the shell this evening.

Re: Back in beige
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:25 am
by Max911
Floating in the air! Nude art

Re: Back in beige
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:45 am
by jury
Very nice images Jaime, you should take up Photography or something
Look forward to seeing the progress.....Now get cracking !
Cheers
Chris
Re: Back in beige
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:06 am
by jb
It looks brilliant.
Barry will be bored as there does not seem to be much that needs doing.