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Re: Tyres

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iirc the tyres must not be more than 7 years old, so there must be a moulded in 'stamp' on the tyre sidewall somewhere.
Happy to be proved wrong!
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911hillclimber wrote:iirc the tyres must not be more than 7 years old, so there must be a moulded in 'stamp' on the tyre sidewall somewhere.
Happy to be proved wrong!
That's definitely wrong I'm afraid Graham!
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Just found this on the Gov web site. Seems if you don't have to have an MoT then all is well, if you have to have an MoT then the tester may question you if the tyres are cracking up.
I remembered there was a proposal to set the age limit to 10 years, but there is a lot of detail to that mainly commercial vehicles.

We will grant an exemption to 2 vehicle groups. Firstly, to those vehicles that are currently exempt from tyre roadworthiness regulations (including agricultural tractors that travel at low speeds) to remain consistent with existing legislation. Secondly, to those historic vehicles that are currently exempt from roadworthiness testing, providing they are not used commercially. We recognise that historic vehicles are usually well-maintained, are used infrequently and do not travel at high speeds but it is important to balance the granting of any exemptions with the safety of all road users.
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911hillclimber wrote:if you have to have an MoT then the tester may question you if the tyres are cracking up.
Yes all the normal tyre MoT stuff, tread depth and condition (cracks, bulges, damage), but not tyre age in its own right.
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Over on the PCGB Boxster/Cayman forum, some tyres are cracking in 4 years..down in the root of the pattern groove.
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911hillclimber wrote:Over on the PCGB Boxster/Cayman forum, some tyres are cracking in 4 years..down in the root of the pattern groove.
Yes indeed, but back to the point, the policeman will not be questioning tyres based on any age limit. Just condition,
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911hillclimber wrote:Did you go Dunlops?
Nothing like a fresh set of tyres on a car!
I went with the Dunlop Blue Response 195/65x15V. Made in Poland, the rubber is very sticky so the rubber is new.

The old Pirellis (P6s but not the P6000 design) were hard, so I can understand why the car handled abit strange.

And yes, if an accident happened, I can see the insurance giving the owner a hard time, but I would expect them to be clear about tyre age in their policy.
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domtoni wrote:
911hillclimber wrote:Did you go Dunlops?
And yes, if an accident happened, I can see the insurance giving the owner a hard time, but I would expect them to be clear about tyre age in their policy.
I think there is a common misconception. There are very few things indeed that an insurance company in the UK can give you a hard time over. Undeclared mods is one as is lying generally in the application. Some (such as Admiral) have specifics around drink and drugs. There used to be a few that mandated an MoT when it was needed, but I think that was against the RTA and doesn't appear any more.
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If the insurance company was a pain, they could say the 195/65 x 15 tyres are a mod, undeclared. My insurance has been pretty good and my car, aside from the torsion bars and bushings, has no undeclared mods.
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Yes indeed and especially hard with old cars that are likely to be different from original in many areas a lot of them small changes. It's good to insure classics with insurers that you can discuss the mods with. I've got a renewal due shortly for my 69T that was insured having a 2.0E engine in (declared). That's in the process of being changed for a 2.4S engine. I may need to shop around, but it hopefully won't be more than the cost for an actual 2.4S as it were!
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Hard to say. Insurers have their own criteria. I am with RH, and had good results, and the best prices. Before hand I was with Classicline. I had to move away for some reason. Hagerty was always a bit more expensive.
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It'll be interesting to see how it goes!
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Keep us informed
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Re: Tyres

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Hagerty actually know what we go on about in my 4 years with them and my modded 911, no emails just conversation; they know a rollcage from an anti roll bar. FJ a few years ago thought they were the same thing....
My Dunlops have been great, sure footed and do not flat spot while sitting for months in the garage.

I do not trust any insurance company to stand on my side.
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I watched when it was on Italian TV Chasing Classic Cars, and Wayne Carini (perhaps sponsored by Hagerty) seems to use them. I just had a quote on a 360 Ferrari from Hagerty, Aviva and my bank (insure my daily drive), and Hagerty was about 40% more expensive. My bank 6 times more expensive than Aviva and I'm awaiting a quote from RH.
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