DDK - Die Deutschen Klassiker

majordad wrote:Robin, this is my car, a 1972 2.4S, just finished a two and a half restoration at Ninemeister Warrington. You should remember the car, it and I used race against you in the Irish Porsche Open Series. It was red then, well blood orange, and in 2000 I had a big accident in the West Cork Rally. Car lay in a yard for ten years , open to the elements and badly bent. Like you I wondered what standard to restore it to and how new looking. In the end I decided to make it look new, well as far as was reasonable cost wise. Still some small work to do. Here it is last Saturday, I took it out for a 300kms drive , my first spin in almost 15 yrs in it.

Does anyone have any seat rails/runners to suit my Recaro Sports Seats, I ve lost most of what I had pre 1990.



Colour is the 997 GT3 RS 2010 Gen 2 Black/Grey , originally car was Sepia Brown but I could not personally live with that colour so picked something I myself like and want.

HI Dave - yes I remember the car well, remember beating most of the time still the car looks very nice indeed and its good to see it again. What about the other cars that used to race Tom Haliseys, Paul Gray's and Ciaran Molumby's 2.7 cars - anything happening with them? They would all make great cars for restoration?

The 9M badge will be going when I get my old Porsche badge cleaned up a bit.



The exhaust and rear bumper is not correct for the reason I wanted to use up a stainless steel almost new twin outlet box I had. And a plastic rear bumper to save weight, for cost, but most importantly so as not to cut up a new steel one. If it does not work out or I decide to go original then nothing much lost.

Darren65 wrote:I've never quite understood what 'over' restored is?……surely a car is either restored or it isn't.

itsdashy wrote:Hi. Last saw her tucked up in a bubble at Autofarm when I sold her to Josh. Funny thing is he'd been looking for one of the three for years, but because of a plate change earlier in her life only discovered he'd previously owned her in the 80's for a spell without knowing.

Must have been about twelve years ago now. I keep on seeing her popping up in magazines and Goodwood etc. which is nice.

jamie wrote:

Darren65 wrote:I've never quite understood what 'over' restored is?……surely a car is either restored or it isn't.

Depends. To me (and I suppose many others), an over-restored car is one whereby the quality of the finish far exceeds the state it would have left the factory in, to the point where it no longer sits right to the eye. It's a state of mind thing. 1950s-onwards British cars and American muscle cars with paint jobs like glass spring to mind.

The most beautifully restored car I have ever photographed was a Hemi 'Cuda that they owner (a schoolteacher!) had painted as it would have been in the late 1960s - meaning he had, after much practice over-and-over on another shell, laid down a total covering of purple metallic in less than two minutes (as it would have been, whilst rolling down the line, at the Plymouth factory) - overspray on the underseal, bare patches under the bonnet and boot, and all. The thing just looked perfect. He had owned Barracudas his whole life, so he knew the cars and he knew how they were built. Was absolutely wonderful.

I supposed sometimes it's possible to complete the car to a standard well above it's original spec and get away with it. Eagle E-Types spring to mind. A combination of misty-eyed recollection and also working to the standard that the cars should have been (but famously weren't) finished to in period. And then there's the stuff from the 1920s and before that no-one can really remember anyway...