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nick-moss wrote:That's the problem, there is already one SCRS in Slowly Sideways. The guys who drive these cars want something different and a 959 certainly fits that bill.
Aha - now I understand 8) Sorry - I didn't realise that Jim6r4 was THAT Jim :lol:

Well - you could always buy my 959 prototype? She's for sale.... :wink:

Adam who owns the ex. Ragnotti Renault 5 Turbo in Slowly Sideways is a good friend who lives locally.

As for 959 bodykit - there *was* a company in the US making kits - but they were truly gruesome - made a lot of 'cabriolet' replicas :roll: but I'm sure they went bust and the molds sold off about three or four years ago - I was offered them and politely declined! :lol:

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This was not planed,i was asked to biuld a four wheel drive Porsche to do the Austrailian Safari Rally 9days 5000klm through the Austrailian bush ,I biult the Martini car that Bjorn Waldegard did the East Africa Safari in 2005,the one Nick just posted, so i thought one last Porsche Promise
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Hi PMJT could you post some pictures of your 959 and post or pm me the price, when you see Adam give him my regards
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jim6r4 wrote:Hi PMJT could you post some pictures of your 959 and post or pm me the price, when you see Adam give him my regards
Jim - I'll pm you my number - give me a call later today and I'll tell you more - here are some details:

I bought the #7 959 prototype about five years ago - mainly to rescue her as she'd bounced around the auctions at the end of the '90s and not sold due being a 'non runner'.

The history of the car is, it was the seventh of the 13 'F' series prototypes - and as such carries a '930' chassis number. I have a letter from the factory authenticating the car and a charming email from Ralph Sprenger (the works manager at the time) giving more history of the car.

After the factory finished with her she was 'given' (sold!) to Vasek Polak along with another prototype #9 (now owned by Mauro Bompani in Italy) - as US legislation prevented the car from being used she was displayed at Polak's headquarters until the carnet ran out - at which time she was loaned to the Matsuda Collection and displayed in the museum (confirmed by Brian Redman, one of Polak's executors).

She returned to Germany where Polak intended, I believe, to restore her - however his death caused the estate - including the two prototypes - to be sold.

She was entered into a Bonhams auction in Geneva (verified by Simon Kitson) and failed to sell due to having to be pushed into the auction room! I believe Bonhams entered her into another sale and she again failed to sell. Ultimately she was bought by Phillipe Olyzyk who then sold her to an owner in the midlands of the UK.

I acquired the car from James Mackie who had come to own it, believing it was a full production car and was somewhat unhappy!

She was a non-runner from leaving the factory as I understand it - I've heard a charming story that Porsche insisted Polak purchase the two cars as part of his 'commitment' to the factory, and pay EXTRA for the cars to be refinished to production standards - at the time Porsche were on the brink of bankruptcy and calling in any favours they could - however Polak (wisely) refused to pay for the refurbishment to sale standard and bought the cars 'as is'. Porsche therefore insisted they could only be sold as non runners and removed the ECU.

The story goes that a member of the Porsche family was so incensed at the way Polak was being treated, they pulled an ECU out of the factory and sent it to Polak.

She has had substantial work to return her to a running state - the turbos were both rebuilt by a KKK specialist and the top end of the engine checked over by Robert Gant (the engine is basically a 962 derivative and Robert has good experience with these). The normal 'consumable' items such as the drive control pump etc have been replaced and she now drives very well - in fact she's bloody quick.

I have heard an unsubstantiated rumour that #7 - this car - was also one of those used to test the 550bhp upgrade offered by the factory for the production 959's - the other car I know to have been 550'd includes my old silver car, now owned by Juan Birrazi. Certainly #7 drives as quickly as my old silver car - if not quicker!

Please don't ever ask me how much I've spent on her - but it's a lot. The prototype wheels were correctly re-finished in the pearlescent white, brand new Bridgestone RE71 Denloc tyres fitted, all consumable items that need replacing have been etc., etc.

The prototypes have a number of unique features and each car is different - some carried over from the Geneva Gruppe B concept car, including different designs for the drive control computer select stalk, the fuel filler is under the hood - rather than through the hood on the production cars, she has a wonderful hand taped schematic of her unique electrical layout on the inside of the glove box and a fan booster switch located under the dash.

She is a unique piece of Porsche history that carries a UK V5, MOT and tax!! Just about 28,000kms.

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pmjt wrote:
Poorboy wrote:Battery . . . Did someone mention 12hrs on the Porsche Centre workcard!


They are awesome cars - but sometimes it REALLY is like living with a high maintenance woman :roll:

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Philip, I haven't recovered from seeing your collection yet !! Dont tell me you have a 959 as well??. I think I need help ....counselling .....just a quiet word ...snap out of it man, it was just a dream :x :x :x :shock: :shock:
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wizzman wrote:Philip, I haven't recovered from seeing your collection yet !! Dont tell me you have a 959 as well??. I think I need help ....counselling .....just a quiet word ...snap out of it man, it was just a dream :x :x :x :shock: :shock:
Hi Ian - thanks for the kind words - BUT I don't have a RHD 2.4S :lol: Hope the SSI's worked out ok and PLEASE do send me the details of your S for the register :wink:

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They're good - but not right - look at the front wings - because the wheel base is to short, the front looks like it drops off to quickly - and the rear is squashed where the wing line is too short.

Like I said, good but not right - wonder how much they charge.

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pmjt wrote:They're good - but not right - look at the front wings - because the wheel base is to short, the front looks like it drops off to quickly - and the rear is squashed where the wing line is too short.

Like I said, good but not right - wonder how much they charge.

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But probably good enoufgh for a rally car that is going to be pounded around Australia :shock:
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Nicks correct, we just want the look, if i do the project i will biuld it to do the rally . and sell it in Austrailia, it will have very little value here Does anybody have photos of the rally 959 it looks a lot narro
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jim6r4 wrote:Does anybody have photos of the rally 959
Loads of pics online - some good ones here, also some of the earlier Dakar 911. I think it's the same shell, but the ride height, bigger rims and paint scheme slim it down a bit.

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One of my favourite 911 derivatives :)

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Good luck. Sounds an interesting project 8)
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The Paris Dakar winner of 1984 was the 953, is this what you are going to replcate?

Here is another pic of the one that Tuthill brought to Brands, does any one have a pic from the rear to show whether the C pillar is different to the 959?

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959 - Dakar 85

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959 - Dakar 86 - Winner

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