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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:06 pm
by Nick Moss
The heater tube will be destroyed in the early part of the rust removal process, but would probably survive the Ecoat process. The next one I do will have the inner sill and tube removed for the rust disolving, then we will do all the welding and repair work, including fitting the inner and outer sills before Ecoating. I will fit a SWB style heater tube in this case which is all steel.
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:16 pm
by 1972_911t
That was my concern, it seemed a bit of a waste to have to coat the car with the sill off when this is one of the major rust areas of the car. Are the SWB heat tubes still readily available?
Steve
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:19 pm
by 1972_911t
Is the heat tube located behind the outer sill or behind the inner sill?
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:21 pm
by Nick Moss
Its behind the inner sill.
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:13 pm
by Berny
You nead to remove both to get the muffler out!
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:17 pm
by 1972_911t
Anyone got part numbers for the SWB heat tubes?
Thanks Steve
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:25 pm
by davidppp
Hello guys.
To do a resto without removing the inner and outer sills is false economy IMHO.
The whoile job is no more than two days.to ra nd r the foutr sills..
Only then can you see the usually bad rust in the middle sheelt of steel which supports the torsion tube..and do the jack points correctly..
So I'm with Nick here..remove the kidney bowls and all 4 sills, rear quarters,and any other muoldy bits..strip , repair fully, and e coat..
The heatertube is easalsiy replaced by 2 inch 18g steel in most cases btw!
Kind regards
David
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:21 pm
by Alan @ CanfordClassics
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I think you can still by the original heater tubes new.
Alan
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:47 am
by steve wright
the factory are now offering restoration services - at Classic Le Mans Nick & I listened to one of the factory guys explain the rust removal and painting process which sounds similar to what you're doing Nick? From memory they were quoting about 3000 euro for the process but that obviously depended on what needed to be done to the car.
you can see the classifieds now though - "1970 911, restored at the facotry 2006"
cheers,
Steve
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:10 am
by 1972_911t
Does anyone have the part numbers for the early non plastic mufflers? My parts guy carnt find any earlier than 69.
Steve
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:35 am
by davidppp
The amazing thing is that the factory "restos" are renowned as of mediocre quality!
Compared to some British specialists..
And often far from correct in many details to boot...
Not to say cheap..
Kind regards
david
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:35 am
by davidppp
The amazing thing is that the factory "restos" are renowned as of mediocre quality!
Compared to some British specialists..
And often far from correct in many details to boot...
Not to say cheap..
Kind regards
david
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:12 pm
by veryporky
Interesting. Anybody seen a factory restored car then? An old mate had his done at AFN in about '92. That looked really good although I did not have time to go through it with a fine tooth comb so to speak.
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:24 pm
by davidppp
I have seen both an old AFN job..excellent..and a Factory job..OK..
Neither was as good as one can do today with best current technology..for less money..
Kind regards
david
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:17 am
by 1972_911t
Does anyone know if e-coating actually makes it inbetween the joints of panels? I stripped off one of my sills today and was quite pleased with the internal condition, they are pretty spottles inside however I did notice some surface rust on the surface of the joints would the chemical stripping and e-coating cure this?
I couldnt find the SWB heater tubes so made do with some 2" steal tube, which is A bit smaller then the original but I dont think it should make much difference.
Steve