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Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:43 am
by gridgway
KS wrote:It's been amended now to read as a trade sale.
Excellent. It gets my goat when traders try to sell cars as private cars with they aren't!

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:27 pm
by Sam
Traders do have / are allowed their own cars…

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:25 pm
by KS
Sam wrote:Traders do have / are allowed their own cars…
No, no, no, you got it all wrong. Traders just borrow cars out of stock. Everyone knows that. :lol:

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:01 pm
by gridgway
Sam wrote:Traders do have / are allowed their own cars…
They are if they register the cars in their own name.

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:33 am
by 210bhp
Ahh but, is the registered keeper necessarily the owner?


Regards
Mike

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:40 am
by 911hillclimber
Long time ago that was the case?
The person in the log book is the legal owner; today the V5 states this may not be the case, so having a log book today only really gives the vehicle's details and the person who is using it, and who get the tickets for speeding, etc.

In the latter, the name on the V5 is the person who gets the fine, so presumably they have no link to the vehicle's owner, no authority has.

Very loose state of affairs as you cannot be sure if the actual owner consents to a sale?

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:10 am
by gridgway
Sam wrote:Traders do have / are allowed their own cars…
They are indeed, but they can't register them to trade, avoiding a new keeper.

There have been several cars sold on CC that I've seen chaining a private sale and the seller is clearly a trader, trading!

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:25 pm
by DarthMJH
All ready to go rallying. 1973 Carrera RS 3.0 Competition Spec

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115342793015?

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:40 pm
by Sam
gridgway wrote:
Sam wrote:Traders do have / are allowed their own cars…
They are indeed, but they can't register them to trade, avoiding a new keeper.

There have been several cars sold on CC that I've seen chaining a private sale and the seller is clearly a trader, trading!
Can’t they? Does it still say ‘the registered keeper is not the legal owner etc’ on the V5 still?

But I do agree. CC don’t seem too worried about accuracy on this point (and others), I guess it would take a lot of effort to fully vet everyone, they’ll just ask the seller. I wonder why they even show it, traditional auction houses don’t.

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:32 pm
by PhilipB
Worth bearing in mind that a trade sale is covered by consumer protection laws whereas a private sale isn’t. Call me cynical but traders do have a motivation to disguise themselves as private sellers.

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:49 pm
by Sam
Yes. Sorry. Thinking about it, CC isn’t a traditional auction house, they just charge a fee for putting a buyer and seller in touch, so you’re right, a trader selling on there would be bound by the consumer rights act and so on.

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:33 am
by Timo
Yep PhilipB, you’ve hit the nail on the head.

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:24 pm
by gridgway
Bootsy wrote:Italian 2.4S with 2.7 engine

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/197 ... A79he5af7U
£139k plus 6k fee. That was an expensive 158 miles!

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:23 am
by MikeB
Plus £21,700 for the 2.4S engine, were they bought by the same buyer, did anyone spot?

Re: Porsche for sale of the day..........

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:54 am
by gridgway
Good point Mike!