Birth of a rally car

Ongoing and archived Porsche (and other marques) restoration threads from DDK members

Moderator: Bootsy

Post Reply
User avatar
Darren65
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 8161
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:55 pm
Location: North Wiltshire
Contact:

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by Darren65 »

Congratulations on your Tour Britannia result Phil, magnificent achievement….It prompted me to re-read this thread, this really is a special car.

Love all the weight saving, where did you end up with final weight?

A general update on the car would be most welcome. :wink:

Cheers,
pht9
DDK forever
Posts: 636
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:49 am
Location: north west
Contact:

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by pht9 »

The weight of the car without fuel is 980kg in Rally trim, we can reduce that down to around 965kg if it was in 'circuit spec'

I guess the biggest update for the car is the upgrade to the 3.0 MFI engine, that I have been developing for around 18 months. It is pretty unique specification, as it uses our own design pistons, camshaft profile and exhaust system. I am very pleased with the results, we have just under 300bhp and I have been working on the tractability of the engine throughout its range, which is so important for a rally motor. The MFI pump has been on and off so many times with adjustments to the fuelling :banghead: . I use a lambda sensor in the exhaust, and datalog the runs, so that I can fine tune the mixture

The latest upgrade was switching the ignition to the 8-pin HKZ units as the RSR ran in period, along with a spare, plus the rpm limiter that is adjustable

Image
pht9
DDK forever
Posts: 636
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:49 am
Location: north west
Contact:

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by pht9 »

for anyone attending Castle Hedingham next Sunday, we will have the SCR on display, along with a VERY special friend that makes its first public UK debut 8)

Look forward to seeing you all !
User avatar
yoda
I need to get out more!
Posts: 3291
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:01 am
Location: London

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by yoda »

Great result Phil and a super car - must be a hoot to drive.

Now tell us about the special friend ........... :wink:
The force is strong in this one ......
stretch
Me and DDK sitting in a tree! KISSING
Posts: 2909
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 2:54 pm
Location: Kent

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by stretch »

Do i know this "Special friend" Phil ? Or is she not special yet.
70T barn find...... to ST.
1998 C2 996 Kettle
User avatar
Bootsy
Site admin and the Boss
Posts: 25683
Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:09 pm
Location: Norwich
Contact:

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by Bootsy »

How special is she? Will have to come and see next Sunday
1972 911T | 1994 993 Carrera | 1999 986 Boxster |

Vintage Heuer, Omega, Zenith and other vintage watches - http://www.heuerheritage.co.uk
pht9
DDK forever
Posts: 636
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:49 am
Location: north west
Contact:

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by pht9 »

its special, you guys won't be disappointed :)
User avatar
Darren65
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 8161
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:55 pm
Location: North Wiltshire
Contact:

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by Darren65 »

pht9 wrote:its special, you guys won't be disappointed :)
Understatement 8)
pht9 wrote:I will document the engine build a little later
Well? :wink:

I just love this car Phil….another thread I keep drifting back to, just awesome! 8)
pht9
DDK forever
Posts: 636
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:49 am
Location: north west
Contact:

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by pht9 »

I have decided to market the SCR. Hopefully this thread will become useful in documenting the build process, its a wonderful car and I am sure its future owner will enjoy it as much as I have.

http://www.tech9.ms/car-sales/porsche-9 ... rallye-lhd
User avatar
yoda
I need to get out more!
Posts: 3291
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:01 am
Location: London

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by yoda »

Hmmmmm ..... just thinking what body parts I could sell to buy that! Lovely car, best of luck with the sale.
The force is strong in this one ......
User avatar
Bootsy
Site admin and the Boss
Posts: 25683
Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:09 pm
Location: Norwich
Contact:

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by Bootsy »

Amazing car, good fortune with the sale
1972 911T | 1994 993 Carrera | 1999 986 Boxster |

Vintage Heuer, Omega, Zenith and other vintage watches - http://www.heuerheritage.co.uk
dragonfly
I luv DDK!
Posts: 769
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:05 am
Location: Hants/Sussex border
Contact:

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by dragonfly »

Great car, someone's in for a treat
Al
Member #665
'81 911SC Arrow Blue
Dragonfly 28 trimaran - no speed limits at sea
pht9
DDK forever
Posts: 636
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:49 am
Location: north west
Contact:

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by pht9 »

Its been a while since I posted on the build thread of my SCR, I had a few requests to share the details of the engine. Having successfully completed numerous events, trouble free over the past few years in my car, we have now started to market this engine and have just finished our first client build, I enclose some of the build details. This engine differs from my engine, in that its twin-plugged, my car being built to FIA 3062 homologation where only single plug allowed - I hope you enjoy the content

Engine is based on a 911SC - retains 3.0 Capacity

Layout of components, prior to build

Image

Tech 9 Custom pistons and conrods

Image

Mahle Cylinders, machined for accuracy (bore perpendicular to mounting faces) then plated with ceramic composite

Image

Cylinder heads twin plugged and new sodium filled Intake and Exhaust valves installed

Image

Ports machined for flow and accuracy of mounting to intake manifolds, Injector ports added for MFI injectors

Image

Heart of the beast ! – here you can see the large capacity GT3 Oil pump, one piece steel Intermediate gear, Crank and con-rod assembly, cases with shuffle-pins installed on the main webs. To ensure this lot don’t burst out, secured with ARP Porsche specific engine fasteners throughout

Image


Build completed

Image

Details, Details……. Magnesium High Butterfly 50mm Intake system, MFI Red Top RSR Fuel Pump

Image

Image

Tech 9 Custom exhaust system with equal length stepped headers, with merge collectors

Image

Pre-Dyno – Installed on our engine test bed to bed in camshafts and set ignition timing, set throttle butterflies etc

Image

Dyno testing – Final results 308bhp @ 7600rpm with 233 ft/lbs torque @ 5300rpm with silencing requirements met to allow for MSA event testing
Built as a rally specification engine with good low-mid range torque characteristics, the torque curve is very flat. In race/circuit specification the power output would be closer to 340bhp (any takers ! ??? :) )

Image
911hillclimber
Nurse, I think I need some assistance
Posts: 20695
Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:26 pm
Location: West Midlands

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by 911hillclimber »

Quite a thing of technical beauty Phil, fabulous.

What 'class' will the car with this engine run in?
What cams did you use (if that is the major influence on mid range torque?)
73T 911 Coupe, road/hillclimber 3.2L
Lola t 492 / 3.2 hillclimb racer
Boxster 987 Gen II 2.9
alanchester
DDK above all
Posts: 191
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:29 pm
Location: West Lothian

Re: Birth of a rally car

Post by alanchester »

A thing of beauty!

One detail missing was the spendy part. Ball park how much would the engine above cost from a starting point of say a known good SC engine?
81' 911 SC Guards Red
Post Reply